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Hi all,

Well it's my turn what is this thing? It looks like a Japanese yen but there is a rim inscription that says "DA QING ZAO BI CHANG" and I know that isn't Japanese. It's the size of a Ike dollar and makes that sound a silver coin makes when bumped. I think it's some kind of fake yen or promotional thing. Found it my safety deposit box while cleaning out some coins. I know one side of the coin is upside down.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have my doubts as whether this one is authentic- I would start by weighing it

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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a standard Japan silver yen coin.

    Japan One Yen Meiji Year 8 (1875) (Year 1 is 1868)

    Here is one that I have with the same characters except for the year (3,10,4):

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    Japan One Yen Meiji Year 34 (1901)

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  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382
    After doing a little more homework this thing I've got is a fake Japanese one yen produced in China. If I remember right I paid little for it so it's no biggie.
  • satootokosatootoko Posts: 2,720


    << <i>there is a rim inscription >>

    If you mean edge lettering, it's either a 200% phony, or the lettering is post-mint damage. Or, are you giving the Chinese reading of the characters "Dai Ni Hon Mei Ji Hachi Nen"?

    Y#25.2 weighs 26.9568g and is 38.6mm across. The Japan Mint Bureau's weight tolerances have always been very tight. The clockwise swirl on the pearl in the dragon's claws is correct for the year, and so is the position of the tip of the dragon's tail. Many of the Chinese counterfeits are on the same 38.1mm planchets used for faking coins dated Meiji 19 (1886) and later. Based solely on your picture I see nothing to raise suspicion about authenticity.


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  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382


    << <i>

    << <i>there is a rim inscription >>

    If you mean edge lettering, it's either a 200% phony, or the lettering is post-mint damage. Or, are you giving the Chinese reading of the characters "Dai Ni Hon Mei Ji Hachi Nen"?

    Y#25.2 weighs 26.9568g and is 38.6mm across. The Japan Mint Bureau's weight tolerances have always been very tight. The clockwise swirl on the pearl in the dragon's claws is correct for the year, and so is the position of the tip of the dragon's tail. Many of the Chinese counterfeits are on the same 38.1mm planchets used for faking coins dated Meiji 19 (1886) and later. Based solely on your picture I see nothing to raise suspicion about authenticity.


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    In between the Kanji characters are the words in English text "DA QING ZAO BI CHANG". The Kanji, or what appears to be, is flatten and worn but the words "DA QING ZAO BI CHANG" are raised and look almost like they have been casted on.
  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382
    This is the lettering on the edge.

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  • AndresAndres Posts: 977 ✭✭✭
    Here's mine,
    24 Gram - 38,6 diameter , reeded edge and definitly a fake
    bought this one in a lot of 30 similar Chinese/Japanese coins all crown size, for a buck a piece.

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