Cool IKE error up for sale
Do you think it is priced right this time?
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The name is LEE!
The name is LEE!
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....to someone with that kind of money and really wants that coin!
That error may be unique, but it's only valuable to IKE error enthusiasts. Most people have no interest in that sort of thing, so it's a very limited market.
Still, a cool and interesting piece.
Dwayne F. Sessom
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<< <i>Doesn't that belong to a forum member? Didn't they pick it off in a ebay auction only to brag about it before they got it in hand and then threaten the seller if they didn't ship it? Am I mistaken? >>
That would be correct (referring to the coin belonging to a forum member). I would think the seller would be willing to plop down $50 to have PCGS certify it as what it is, especially if he is trying to get that kind of money for it (last week, the asking price was $40,000). I think the coin would be priced right (or closer to right) at the $2,500 level.
You are incorrect about the "facts"
Never bragged, never threaten the seller. Get your facts right before you bash me.
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<< <i>Doesn't that belong to a forum member? Didn't they pick it off in a ebay auction only to brag about it before they got it in hand and then threaten the seller if they didn't ship it? Am I mistaken? >>
Just a bit.
He wasn't bragging but asking if it was a real error or not since he was not sure.
The subject of a lawyer did come up from Chris but there was never any mention about the outcome of the deal. I expect that Chris offered more money for the coin over the $300 initial price but do not know for sure.
I'd like to know who the mystery informant was though but that's something that will never be revealed since it was a very scummy thing to do.
BTW, I think the coin is currently overpriced.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>I am the seller.
You are incorrect about the "facts"
Never bragged, never threaten the seller. Get your facts right before you bash me. >>
Thought I was right. And for the record "look what I got for little to no % of value" constitutes bragging & when you talked about bringing a law suit on the seller if they didn't complete the sale; that sounds like a threat to me too. I could be wrong but I am not horribly worried about your opinion on wither I am or not. That coin would sell for a handsome profit if put in PCGS plastic and put up to auction like HA.com(considering how little you paid), why get "ethically challenged" and ask for Neptune's MOON money for it raw on Ebay with no professional backing or guarantees of a dealer or TPG and refuse returns?
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<< <i>I am the seller.
You are incorrect about the "facts"
Never bragged, never threaten the seller. Get your facts right before you bash me. >>
Thought I was right. And for the record "look what I got for little to no % of value" constitutes bragging & when you talked about bringing a law suit on the seller if they didn't complete the sale; that sounds like a threat to me too. I could be wrong but I am not horribly worried about your opinion on wither I am or not. That coin would sell for a handsome profit if put in PCGS plastic and put up to auction like HA.com(considering how little you paid), why get sleazy and ask for Neptune's MOON money for it raw on Ebay with no professional backing or guarantees of a dealer or TPG? >>
Doesn't the forum have a policy of not calling people "sleazy" see RULE #3
Never bragged at all and never mentioned the price. All I did is ask a question. Never threaten the seller with a lawsuit.
<< <i>ErrorsOnCoins, I thought this was sent to PCGS and encapsulated
No, I did think about it, but I have never sent in coins to get graded. I have over One Hundred Major errors that I would like to get certified, but at over 5 grand, it's not going to happen. I buy coins and not plastic.
As far as I am concerned the coin is what it is. Plastic will not change what the coin is. It may make it more marketable however.
If I get a legit offer and they wanted it certified, then I may have it done.
I am in no hurry to have it certified for myself.
<< <i>I think the shipping is a bit much.
That error may be unique, but it's only valuable to IKE error enthusiasts. Most people have no interest in that sort of thing, so it's a very limited market.
Still, a cool and interesting piece. >>
To the contrary, there are many "error" collectors that collect without regard to coin type but more toward specific error. The Eisenhower Dollars, based solely on their size and ease of spotting at the mint, are usually prized by ALL error collectors. Not just Eisenhower Dollar enthusiasts.
On another forum one such collector had placed a value of 20-25K for this specific (type of) error.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>No, I did think about it, but I have never sent in coins to get graded. I have over One Hundred Major errors that I would like to get certified, but at over 5 grand, it's not going to happen. I buy coins and not plastic.
As far as I am concerned the coin is what it is. Plastic will not change what the coin is. It may make it more marketable however.
If I get a legit offer and they wanted it certified, then I may have it done.
I am in no hurry to have it certified for myself. >>
OK and I understand that this is just a Spec Listing as if it sells fine if not you keep it.
It also pulls more attention to your other listings.
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Doesn't the forum have a policy of not calling people "sleazy" see RULE #3
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<< <i>I am the seller.
You are incorrect about the "facts"
Never bragged, never threaten the seller. Get your facts right before you bash me. >>
Did threaten ebay seller with lawyer , yes you did. all in the name of profit
I talked with many, many people in the field about the "ethics" of what transpired with this coin. Everyone I spoke with said I acted in an ethical way.
here is rule #3 for you,
"Rule 3) Anyone attacking another poster or making disparaging personal remarks will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings."
You have called me sleazy and ethically challenged, so You broke rule #3 twice now.
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<< <i>I am the seller.
You are incorrect about the "facts"
Never bragged, never threaten the seller. Get your facts right before you bash me. >>
Did threaten ebay seller with lawyer , yes you did. all in the name of profit >>
I never threatened the seller with a lawyer, Prove it or recant.
So much false info going on.
<< <i>You are still braking RULE # 3 with your "ethically challenged" remark
I talked with many, many people in the field about the "ethics" of what transpired with this coin. Everyone I spoke with said I acted in an ethical way.
here is rule #3 for you,
"Rule 3) Anyone attacking another poster or making disparaging personal remarks will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings."
You have called me sleazy and ethically challenged, so You broke rule #3 twice now. >>
Link to the original "Facts&Original" . I think your statement "Everyone I spoke with said I acted in an ethical way" is a bit strong unless you hand picked the people you spoke to.
But go ahead denie it, we know it happened.
I always wanted to keep all of my options open and I did talk with a lawyer and posted that I might need legal help.
Do you want to know why I made that lawyer post, so all of the unethical people that kept bugging the seller over and over again would stopped bothering the seller.
Guess what, it worked.
As I remember from this situation...
ErrorsOnCoins did not have some old lady walk into his B&M with a cigar box full of spectacular errors that he only offered $300.00 for.
This was an EBay Buy-It-Now listing which he or anyone else could have purchased.
The IKE error in question was well hidden within the EBay ad listing and needed to be hunted for.
ErrorsOnCoins did make a mistake of bragging prior to having it in hand and was slammed for hitting the low ask priced button.
Anyone attacking him is just envious, yet to date it has only been authenticated on this forum based on his images.
His listing price may be high, but I know from conversation this is not an item he is eager to sell.
<< <i>Again, the seller was never threaten or contacted by a lawyer. I never spoke with the seller about a lawyer or any legal action, it never happened.
I always wanted to keep all of my options open and I did talk with a lawyer and posted that I might need legal help.
Do you want to know why I made that lawyer post, so all of the unethical people that kept bugging the seller over and over again would stopped bothering the seller.
Guess what, it worked. >>
I still say you should put out the $50 to have it slabbed. In my opinion, $35K is a bit much toi put out for a raw coin with no protection. Having it in a PCGS slab will certainly help you sell it. It really does not matter if you have never submitted coins for grading before. You can get a dealer to send it in for you. And, if you do have 100 that you want slabbed and don't want to spend the $5K, then sell this one for the $35K you are asking, take $5K of it and send in your other 100 errors to have slabbed and do whatever with the remaning $30K. That is what I would do in a heartbeat. Actually, I take that back. I would probably not do that at all because I would be keeping the IKE because it is way cool of an error.
<< <i>Can't we all just get along
As I remember from this situation...
ErrorsOnCoins did not have some old lady walk into his B&M with a cigar box full of spectacular errors that he only offered $300.00 for.
This was an EBay Buy-It-Now listing which he or anyone else could have purchased.
The IKE error in question was well hidden within the EBay ad listing and needed to be hunted for.
ErrorsOnCoins did make a mistake of bragging prior to having it in hand and was slammed for hitting the low ask priced button.
Anyone attacking him is just envious, yet to date it has only been authenticated on this forum based on his images.
His listing price may be high, but I know from conversation this is not an item he is eager to sell. >>
Almost correct, I never bragged or wanted to brag. I was honestly concerned that the coin may have been a fake so asked a question. Asking a question is how this all started.
<< <i>Almost correct, I never bragged or wanted to brag. I was honestly concerned that the coin may have been a fake so asked a question. Asking a question is how this all started. >>
Well that was like 8+/- months ago so your mistake was posting it prior to having it in hand... a lesson you learned dearly.
Is the old thread still archived or did it poof
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<< <i>Almost correct, I never bragged or wanted to brag. I was honestly concerned that the coin may have been a fake so asked a question. Asking a question is how this all started. >>
Well that was like 8+/- months ago so your mistake was posting it prior to having it in hand... a lesson you learned dearly.
Is the old thread still archived or did it poof
It was locked so it cannot be bumped, nor replied to. However, a previous posted has linked them both above.
I am still very dumbfounded as to why he will not spend the dollars to have it PCGS authenticated. Plenty of dealers out there to submit through. [/.b]
I am still very dumbfounded as to why he will not spend the dollars to have it PCGS authenticated. Plenty of dealers out there to submit through. >>
Thanks Rampage!
I would have instantly sent it to FredWeinberg to submit it through PCGS for authentication.
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Here is my Ike and it’s in the mail to me from NGC MS65.
I would like to have yours to keep Mine Company.
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<< <i>Forget about the garbage talk and have fun collecting coins.
Here is my Ike and it’s in the mail to me from NGC MS65.
I would like to have yours to keep Mine Company. >>
Yes, this is a sweet IKE error. I remember your post on it the other day. Both of these coins would go well with my 1974 Kennedy struck on a Taiwan planchet. I should take pictures of it again and post them.
<< <i>Forget about the garbage talk and have fun collecting coins.
Here is my Ike and it’s in the mail to me from NGC MS65.
I would like to have yours to keep Mine Company.
I agree, wow nice coin. Is that a quarter planchet?
For discussion sake, I don't think what anyone said was breaking any of the rules though.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Hiding behind forum "rules" and trying to intimidate someone with them is "interesting".
For discussion sake, I don't think what anyone said was breaking any of the rules though. >>
I am Not Hiding behind forum rules, I just thought rules were rules, I I am tired of being a target of "disparaging personal remarks" on this and OTHER THREADS.
So you think it is ok to call me "sleazy" or "ethically Challenged"
I take my ethics very seriously, I run two very ethical businesses, and his statement sounds libelous to me.
I would call those "disparaging personal remarks"
Are these rules enforced??
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He wasn't bragging but asking if it was a real error or not since he was not sure. >>
It's would be ike Cardinal asking if we think the 1794 is real. Pretty sure they already know
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The subject of a lawyer did come up from Chris but there was never any mention about the outcome of the deal. I expect that Chris offered more money for the coin over the $300 initial price but do not know for sure. >>
Come on 19lyds, your good people but can I have some of what your drinking/smoking.
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I'd like to know who the mystery informant was though but that's something that will never be revealed since it was a very scummy thing to do. >>
I don't condone snitches either
<< <i>BTW, I think the coin is currently overpriced. >>
I think the Greed/hypocrisy inherent with the coin is where people get turned off by the whole thing IMO, at least that is my objection not that it matters a whole lot. It was the whole original; <OMG Forum members, I am about to get screwed out of screwing someone!!!! But if I don't get screwed look how bad I screwed the novice.> It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. While I have bought coins from people that were worth more than I paid for sure(bought coins that were less too) it has always been at least on a fair playing field. I am not sure where the line is but a transaction that involves 1:thousands of missed dollars 2:A novice vs. a specialist 3:no chance for competition in a true auction format crosses form shrewd business to taking advantage. Once again IMO
You have called me:
sleazy
ethically challenged
and now "screwing someone"
crypto, I run honest and highly ethical businesses, just ask anyone who has done business with me.
Please explain how I am "screwing someone"
The seller decided the price and did not make a typo. All I did was the buy the item from the seller at the sellers price. How is that screwing anybody, how is it sleazy, how is it ethically challenged. Yet you continue to attack me?? why??
Jon
<< <i>It's a really great error, and certainly worth a good price! I love the look of it, and it is about as nice as could be expected for an error like that! My opinion, for what it's worth, is that the coin is probably worth around $20,000
Jon >>
On the estimate of around $20K +/-