My ex Akers/ Dukor 1897s barber half speciman.

bidask · May 28, 2010 7:39AM

Obverse

Reverse

Can you believe he has a better speciman coming up for auction at this summer ANA? I thought I thought I bid well on this one. It has fabulous luster in hand.

tjkillian · May 28, 2010 8:28AM

Picture's a tad small, do you have a larger image of the coin to make a better evaluation?

Patches · May 28, 2010 8:38AM

Shrinkiesized!

Broadstruck · May 28, 2010 8:41AM

It's a great date!

My poor 97-S is a little off compared to Doc Duckor's

Unknown · May 28, 2010 10:18AM

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waterzooey · May 28, 2010 10:46AM

Historically a lower mintage date in the barber coinage history-

For the quarter set it is part of the sub set of semi keys-

The dimes it is an under 1M mintage

For the halves .50$ was a lot of money so not many were saved in high grade....

Tough year and a great coin

Unknown · May 28, 2010 10:53AM

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MFH · May 28, 2010 11:42AM

bidask - I really like your 1897-S - and its one of a half dozen dates I
would like to upgrade in my best set...[ I only have an AU 53 ]... and
as there are no PCGS AU 58's - I know I'll have to add a MS coin one
of these days.

Thanks, Patches for reducing the size !!

waterzooey · May 28, 2010 12:10PM

Realone... part of me feels like you are messing around and having fun; trying to compare die marriages and the like to Barbers... Well it is not like that- When you look at the Barber quarters there are different reverses when the mintmark is moved around a bit... However, it is not critical to know these unless you are buying raw 01-s, 13-s, and 96-s quarters. The half set has some mm varieties but nothing insane and beyond the 1892-o (Micro o) nothing rare. The Barber coins in MS65,66,67 are great- Especially when it has a great crust on it with that frosty luster bursting through. The big boys can be found in high grades. It is a fun set for the specialist to put together in mid grades because the rarity scale is different. So many barbers were melted during the Great melt of the early 80's that circulated material rarity does not always correspond to mintage.

Enough of a lesson.... look at stella coin news if you want to research further.

John

bidask · May 28, 2010 12:12PM

<< bidask - I really like your 1897-S - and its one of a half dozen dates I
would like to upgrade in my best set...[ I only have an AU 53 ]... and
as there are no PCGS AU 58's - I know I'll have to add a MS coin one
of these days.

Thanks, Patches for reducing the size !! >>

May-1998 $8,800 MS65 NONE ( meaning not graded by a TPG) David Akers John Jay Pittman II 1602 Ex. Raymond (1946) , It may have been this speciman which was unslabbed at the time and auctioned by David Akers.....this from coin facts.

Unknown · May 28, 2010 1:03PM

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TomB · May 28, 2010 1:21PM

I think Realone is attempting to identify the year of his reverse brockage Barber half.

Broadstruck · May 28, 2010 1:26PM

<< I think Realone is attempting to identify the year of his reverse brockage Barber half. >>

waterzooey · May 28, 2010 1:31PM

Stella coin news has the barber half book there that you can use....

Unknown · May 28, 2010 2:08PM

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Broadstruck · May 28, 2010 2:15PM

Realone, Now that your seriously dating your brockage, are you counting down the days until your wedding

Unknown · May 28, 2010 2:19PM

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Broadstruck · May 28, 2010 2:28PM

<< What can I say I love my Brockage!!! >>

Just keep your lil punch in your pants and don't go counterstriking it!

MFH · May 28, 2010 4:19PM

The best I can do for you at the moment is to show you my 1897-S :

Sorry for the small photos... I tried to attach the larger ones - but I'm at a loss on how to...

http://bluccphotos.com/clients/mfh/2-16-10/web/Pages/43.html

bidask · May 28, 2010 4:41PM

<< The best I can do for you at the moment is to show you my 1897-S :

Sorry for the small photos... I tried to attach the larger ones - but I'm at a loss on how to...

http://bluccphotos.com/clients/mfh/2-16-10/web/Pages/43.html >>

great speciman!...congats on owning that coin

DrPete · June 5, 2010 11:16AM

I have a 1897-S half in my registry set that grades MS 67 PCGS. I initially did this post to try to link the image, but I don't seem to be able to do it. If anybody else could help I would be grateful.

MFH · June 5, 2010 1:11PM

<< I have a 1897-S half in my registry set that grades MS 67 PCGS. I initially did this post to try to link the image, but I don't seem to be able to do it. If anybody else could help I would be grateful. >>

Here you go, Peter.

Unknown · June 5, 2010 1:23PM

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MFH · June 5, 2010 2:08PM

Realone,

I double checked both of DLRC Press books on Halves - the Breen Encyclopedia - the Kevin Flynn
and the Beistle Register of Half Dollar Die Varieties and Sub-Varieties.

Beistle mentions ......

" 1897 S 1 A Perfect.

Rev. A. High mint mark S, is slightly above the center of space
between the tail feather and top of D, and is to the right of the
center of the tail feather. "

If your actual question is : How many Dies did they use for the Reverse of the 1897
San Fransisco Half Dollar - I don't have any information for the numbers used.
I'm sure that Mint Records will be able to answer that.

I am completely unaware of any actual die marraiges for any Barber Half.

Unknown · June 5, 2010 2:13PM

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MFH · June 5, 2010 3:12PM

Realone - ok - I understand your question now - but its NOT a die marraige.

They did use different MM punches over the years and sometime used them

upside down. I have a few dozen San Fransisco Halves - and will look more

closely at the style of the S on the early dates to see if there is any appreciable

difference by year.

Can I see your Brockage Half ?

Unknown · June 5, 2010 3:27PM

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Broadstruck · June 5, 2010 7:40PM

<< Can I see your Brockage Half ? >>

Here's some images and history...

It is a unique first strike full mirror brockage Barber Half. It is the only known Barber Half brockage for the entire series. It is almost uncirculated with original luster and beautiful toning.

This show piece mint error has traded between many dealers and collectors in the last thirty years. Every time it exchanges hands it causes a stir and draws attention among mint error enthusiasts. It was originally purchased by Steve Estes in 1972, who is a coin dealer in Oregon. When Steve bought the piece he was told that it was kept in a small leather pouch for almost fifty years. The person who sold it to Steve was a teller at Caliente Race Track in Tijuana, Mexico in 1926.

In 1976 Harlan White, another coin dealer, purchased this unique mint error as part of a large collection. It subsequently traded hands and was purchased by Fred Weinberg. At one point in time David Lawrence, author of The Complete Guide to Barber Halves, also had the pleasure of buying and selling this piece. Robert Astrich, a coin dealer from Hempstead, Texas, also handled it and wished he had kept it for himself.

It eventually became part of the Jerry Bobbe collection, who is a professional numismatist from Oregon. In 1997 Jerry Bobbe sold this piece to another dealer who offered it to me at the 2002 New York ANA.

This Barber Half brockage is graded AU 58 by PCGS. Since it is an obverse brockage there is no date, but it was struck at the San Francisco mint. It is struck on a planchet that has extremely smooth surfaces, no distracting marks of any kind, original mint luster, reflective fields and original golden brown toning.

Since this was a first strike full mirror brockage mint error, the brockage is extremely deep, not distorted and was struck completely centered on the planchet without expanding beyond the collar.

Unknown · June 6, 2010 3:05AM

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My ex Akers/ Dukor 1897s barber half speciman.

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