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Has the bulk of the So-Called dollar market gone back to sleep?

291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,736 ✭✭✭✭✭
The buzz seems to be gone.

Have overly optimistic asking prices killed all but the real rarities in this market?

I see several dealers at local shows who have substantial numbers of So-Called Dollars in NGC slabs. All have very high prices and are getting to be old friends since they apparently can't find a new home.

The same thing now seems to be happening to Conder tokens. I never used to see those in dealer cases but now I do ... complete with high asking prices.
All glory is fleeting.

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The buzz seems to be gone.

    Have overly optimistic asking prices killed all but the real rarities in this market?

    I see several dealers at local shows who have substantial numbers of So-Called Dollars in NGC slabs. All have very high prices and are getting to be old friends since they apparently can't find a new home.

    The same thing now seems to be happening to Conder tokens. I never used to see those in dealer cases but now I do ... complete with high asking prices. >>


    It's the circle of numismatic life.
  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    Bubbles come, and bubbles go ...
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    When I read the title of this thread, it reminded me of a thread I was thinking of writing. It seems that the markets have gotten less flamboyant lately. I recall back in the day when we had dealers calling other dealers saying that "this coin need to go to sleep", and then we had people leaving gold bars in their garages, and other sundry tales. The coin markets seem to be a bit more boring of late.
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When I read the title of this thread, it reminded me of a thread I was thinking of writing. It seems that the markets have gotten less flamboyant lately. I recall back in the day when we had dealers calling other dealers saying that "this coin need to go to sleep", and then we had people leaving gold bars in their garages, and other sundry tales. The coin markets seem to be a bit more boring of late. >>


    I would tend to agree, but we might be becoming a bit jaded, too.
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When I read the title of this thread, it reminded me of a thread I was thinking of writing. It seems that the markets have gotten less flamboyant lately. I recall back in the day when we had dealers calling other dealers saying that "this coin need to go to sleep", and then we had people leaving gold bars in their garages, and other sundry tales. The coin markets seem to be a bit more boring of late. >>




    Is this Longacre reply itself a reflection of malaise in the market? "I was thinking of writing a question, but... eh."

    What the !!!

    Compare that to the typical Longacre output of two, three years ago. First of all, we're talking between 10 and 20 posts per diem. Second, each was a finely nuanced and multi-layered gem of philosophical gravitas, obviously polished and faceted by years growing up in New England's finest Jesuit summer camps. "What does QDB's lunch portend for the future of investor-quality early-19th-century silver type coins? Here are three theories for discussion"; &c.


  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486
    I've sold 7 or 8 Conders the last week and have a long want list for myself. I think the prices have risen quite rapidly but that is often the case with any collectible that becomes hot, it will cool off and stabilize, until the next time. Demand for such items does tend to create a bubble, I've seen it with numerous antiques and collectibles over the past 30 years.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    While dealers have seemed to pull back, collectors are still actively going after
    high grade nice looking SC Dollars, as well as the SC Half Dollars. Perhaps the very
    rare and high priced items are drifting but the mid range 50 - 200 dollar examples
    seem to be actively traded by collectors. It is my opinion that collectors have been on
    a learning curve as to what these medals should look like to be collectible. A lot of garbage
    has been floated at rather inflated prices and collectors have been burned. Much like coins,
    a piece may be scarce but if it is fugly, it is fugly. This is especially a concern ,when lovely
    examples may be available with a little effort looking.I have been auctioning off a number
    of my duplicates and have found a surprisingly strong market buying auction lots at small
    auctions.

    Many non HK examples are lovely and complex artistry and can be found in silver , are not all that
    expensive. The rarity level of many of these non HKs is high and when I see one I am all over it.
    Sometimes the unexplored lands are where the true gems are to be found.


    One might say ,that the action is there, it is just quiet and under the surface. Unless you are actively
    buying and selling in a certain price range and in non HK items, you will miss seeing it.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>When I read the title of this thread, it reminded me of a thread I was thinking of writing. It seems that the markets have gotten less flamboyant lately. I recall back in the day when we had dealers calling other dealers saying that "this coin need to go to sleep", and then we had people leaving gold bars in their garages, and other sundry tales. The coin markets seem to be a bit more boring of late. >>




    Is this Longacre reply itself a reflection of malaise in the market? "I was thinking of writing a question, but... eh."

    What the !!!

    Compare that to the typical Longacre output of two, three years ago. First of all, we're talking between 10 and 20 posts per diem. Second, each was a finely nuanced and multi-layered gem of philosophical gravitas, obviously polished and faceted by years growing up in New England's finest Jesuit summer camps. "What does QDB's lunch portend for the future of investor-quality early-19th-century silver type coins? Here are three theories for discussion"; &c. >>




    image The Jesuits taught Longacre well. image

    I will try to beat back The Man and find more time to write up posts.
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    This is actually a perfect environment to pick up the items, in the grade I like

    at reasonable prices. You snooze you lose.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    My one and only picked up on the B/S/T in 2006. My State of birth and still in the original packaging: image



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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My only SC dollar, which I won with an absentee bid of $75 a few years back in a small estate auction.
    I guess I don't care what the market for them is doing, as I'm not planning on buying any more, and not planning on selling this one image

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