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relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
This is the coin that currently holds the Barber Dime spot in my certificate type set. I am being offered the second coin for $320. Should I keep the coin I have, or upgrade to the second piece?

I would set this up as a poll if I knew how.


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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    If you're just doing a type set, I'd keep the 1908 dime. It's a nice looking circulated coin. That way you could invest the $320 into a different piece. However, if you're looking to do a higher end type set, then the upgrade would be a good choice.
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,289 ✭✭✭

    1) Depends on if all the other coins in your set are Circs or Uncs. (or if it really matters)
    2) I'd have to see the '09 in hand first. Looks like there may be hairlines on the Rev. If so, it might not be worth going after.
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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unless you are convinced the luster is better than the image indicates, I would not upgrade. The most I would pay for that coin is 64 money, and the seller is asking for quite a bit more than that.
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Love the second one

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  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭✭
    I'd pass on the upgrade.
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1909 will be much tougher to get out of in the black when and if you sell either coin.
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  • MowgliMowgli Posts: 1,219
    I wouldn't upgrade for that kind of money.
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why would you pay $320 for a coin that is essentially raw, when a majority of people told you in yesterday's thread that they did not like the toning or eye appeal? You can get a nice looking PCGS MS64 Barber dime, common date, for $240 to $260 in any major auction, and it will be a better coin than the 1909 shown! Let me guess- the seller's argument is something based upon greysheet or price guide for an MS-65. What does that have to do with a coin that has MS63 eye appeal?
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would pass on that 1909 dime.
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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It seems that the collector wants the holder/certificate more than the coin in this instance. Neither of the coins in those ANACS packs is particularly nice for the grade.
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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why would you pay $320 for a coin that is essentially raw, when a majority of people told you in yesterday's thread that they did not like the toning or eye appeal? You can get a nice looking PCGS MS64 Barber dime, common date, for $240 to $260 in any major auction, and it will be a better coin than the 1909 shown! Let me guess- the seller's argument is something based upon greysheet or price guide for an MS-65. What does that have to do with a coin that has MS63 eye appeal? >>



    If I was puting together a PCGS type set then your argument would be relative. Since I'm not and I'll bet you a nice unc. Morgan dollar that you can't find a MS63 or 64 Barber dime with an Anacs photo certificate.
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I voted the 1909 as I have always learned to get the best coin that you can afford and whether it's a 64 or 65 the 1909 in this comparison is the superior coin in my opinion. That said, I tend to go for 1909 dated coins a little more than some here on the forums so don't put too much weight into my opinion image
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,603 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think the '09 coin is worth the money - however, if you have been searching for a long time for a mint state dime with an ANACs photo cert and this is the only one you've come across, then maybe it is worth to you.
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keep the 1908. It's a nice coin. Spend your money on something you don't have.
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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    The 1908 is quite a nice example and really a great coin. I would stay with the 1908 myself.
  • I like nice, circulated barber dimes, nice ones seem tougher to find than unc versions.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pass. The 1909 is not an MS65.imo
  • JMWJMW Posts: 497
    Keep the first, pas on the..upgrade
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Purchase the new MS65 coin and sell the 1909 XF to offset the price.

    No real loss as the XF coin has been cleaned with baking soda/water sometime in its past.

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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll bet you a nice unc. Morgan dollar that you can't find a MS63 or 64 Barber dime with an Anacs photo certificate.


    That is because most, if not all, nice MS63-64 Barber dimes with ANACS photo certs. were submitted to PCGS or NGC long ago. What does that say about this coin?
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    The 1909 is ugly, keep the XF coin.
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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll bet you a nice unc. Morgan dollar that you can't find a MS63 or 64 Barber dime with an Anacs photo certificate.


    That is because most, if not all, nice MS63-64 Barber dimes with ANACS photo certs. were submitted to PCGS or NGC long ago. What does that say about this coin? >>



    Not true, most I would say 90% of the coins I have bought with Anacs photo certificates are still in the original Anacs packaging including the PVC flip they placed them in. I have submitted
    a few of them myself, including this Washington quarter. Anacs graded the coin MS65/65, and PCGS graded this coin:

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    Most of the 50+ type coins I have purchased are strong for the grade if not outright undergraded by today's standards. So unless there is some conspiracy to only submitt all of the nice Barber dimes with Anacs photo certificates then your statement is not acurate. Most of the coins I buy obviosly have sat in some safety deposit box for the last 25 to 30 years and are now just coming to the market.
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So unless there is some conspiracy to only submitt all of the nice Barber dimes with Anacs photo certificates then your statement is not acurate.


    I respectfully disagree. Not many people kept those old ANACS papers after PCGS and NGC came out with slabs, and then came to dominate the market. I am not saying there aren't nice coins with ANACS papers, as they were quite tight on grading back then. What I am saying is that a very small percentage of these coins remain un-holdered with their original ANACS papers because there was just too much money to be made by sending them to PCGS or NGC. Often, they have been submitted and came back with an unappealing grade, so the seller cracks them out and sells them raw with the papers. If they are fresh from an old safe deposit box, that may not be the case. Now are you saying that 1909 just came out of a safe deposit box after 30 years?
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So unless there is some conspiracy to only submitt all of the nice Barber dimes with Anacs photo certificates then your statement is not acurate.


    I respectfully disagree. Not many people kept those old ANACS papers after PCGS and NGC came out with slabs, and then came to dominate the market. I am not saying there aren't nice coins with ANACS papers, as they were quite tight on grading back then. What I am saying is that a very small percentage of these coins remain un-holdered with their original ANACS papers because there was just too much money to be made by sending them to PCGS or NGC. Often, they have been submitted and came back with an unappealing grade, so the seller cracks them out and sells them raw with the papers. If they are fresh from an old safe deposit box, that may not be the case. Now are you saying that 1909 just came out of a safe deposit box after 30 years? >>



    No, I,m not saying this coin was in a safety deposit box, I'm just saying that most of the coins I have purchased have been very acurately graded to undergraded but of course, each coin must be evaluated on its own merits. Just based on my experience with these, I doubt the coin grades under 64. The coin is a bit overpriced at the 64 level, but would be a good deal at 65.

    JJ
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