Check this 1794 Large Cent out! Sheldon 34!!??

coinkid855

I saved this beauty from sitting in a lockbox for another 20 years.


Anyone wanna venture a grade? Also, can anyone help with the attribution?







-Paul

guitarwes

da da da daaaaa, coinkid855 to the rescue.

Nice coin. Have no idea on the grade or atty. congrats.

JOZ

My guess would be AU50/53

LoveMyLiberty

Seems to be an S-34, with the cud above the L and a single berry left of the bow.

It's supposed to be quite porous, but the color looks off.

coinguy1

<< <i>Seems to be an S-34, with the cud above the L and a single berry left of the bow.

It's supposed to be quite porous, but the color looks off. >>

I agree that the color looks off. That aside, my grade guess is AU53.

coinkid855

Thanks guys! I think the color is from my pictures. It's not as pink in hand. More of a light brown with some mint red peaking through, especially on the reverse.



-Paul

LoveMyLiberty

Oh yeah, I forgot, it could be an R.5+

HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE EDGE FOR ANY LETTER MARKINGS?

Looks like a 35-40. There is one in the Husak auction, Lot# 2036
to compare. The Holmes coins are Lot# 54, 55, and are lower grades.

coinkid855

Wait, there is stuff on the edge...It says "One Hundred for a Dollar"



-Paul

LoveMyLiberty

Yes, you're right, but are there any other markings?
Has this ever been slabbed, or graded?

coinkid855

Nope. It's raw.


-Paul

STONE

Nice looking coin Paul, and I hope it stays that way. Just protect it from the Florida humidity!!!

rhedden

It easily has AU details by the standards currently used by PCGS & NGC. However, the color is certainly the result of an old cleaning and retoning. The porosity may give you a hint as to why it was cleaned- likely to remove some greenish corrosion. Overall, it's still very attractive, and if it turns out to be a rare die marriage, you'd be surprised at how little the cleaning will affect its value.

coinkid855

Do you guys think this would get into a PCGS holder with a grade?




-Paul

STONE

<< <i>Do you guys think this would get into a PCGS holder with a grade?


-Paul >>


Having seen Early Copper coins in 10x's worse condition and in PCGS holders, I would say it has a fair shot!

blu62vette

What is going on with the D in united and the STATE in the reverse? Is that green stuff on it?

TexasNationals

corrosion or pvc all over, cap and pole, the reverse.D.T.A, also looks to be dipped, pinkish color. Great coin, not sure if it would holder with those problems. What is the green stuff??

BigMoose

This is an S-34, R-5 rarity. Despite the recoloring, this coin may be the 2nd or 3rd finest known. It is certainly in the top 6 in the Condition Census. I estimate the value to be around 30 to 40K! Congratulations, coinkid!!

coinkid855

<< <i>This is an S-34, R-5 rarity. Despite the recoloring, this coin may be the 2nd or 3rd finest known. It is certainly in the top 6 in the Condition Census. I estimate the value to be around 30 to 40K! Congratulations, coinkid!! >>




Thanks so much!! It's going off to PCGS tomorrow. The person who's having me sell it for them will be quite happy. I only wish this was MY COIN!



-Paul

LoveMyLiberty

<< <i>This is an S-34, R-5 rarity. Despite the recoloring, this coin may be the 2nd or 3rd finest known. It is certainly in the top 6 in the Condition Census. I estimate the value to be around 30 to 40K! Congratulations, coinkid!! >>




Tom, do you have a S-34? I notice you have a S-32 with the OBV-12. I guess there aren't too many of these floating
around. Husak's XF-45 was sold as the finest available and in the catalog writeup they mention only 30 known.

BigMoose

LoveMyLiberty, I don't own an S-34. I do have a nice S-32( same obverse die ) that was graded in 1990 by PCGS as 65RB, but I think its better than that. Coinkid's S-34 looks like the highest sharpness S-34 in existence, but I suspect the recoloring will knock it down by EAC standards to an EAC 30 or so. The Husak coin which sold in Feb., 2009 was a PCGS 45(EAC 30) coin and 2nd finest known in the Condition Census. The Husak coin sold for $54,625.00. Coinkid's S-34 is one helluva 1794 Large Cent. I think the S-32-34 obverse die, Maris's "Venus Marina", is one of the most beautifully executed of all the 1794 Large Cent obverse dies. TomT.

joecopper

In Boka's census there are only 3 above F12 -- who cares about the color, green stuff or whatever. Is a 34!!!!!!!

coinkid855

Wow...only 3? That's awesome.


-Paul

rld14

<< <i>

<< <i>This is an S-34, R-5 rarity. Despite the recoloring, this coin may be the 2nd or 3rd finest known. It is certainly in the top 6 in the Condition Census. I estimate the value to be around 30 to 40K! Congratulations, coinkid!! >>




Thanks so much!! It's going off to PCGS tomorrow. The person who's having me sell it for them will be quite happy. I only wish this was MY COIN!



-Paul >>



Suggest you plump up the extra $24 for Variety attribution!

Amazing find you have there Sir!

notwilight

Awesome coin, the find is newsworthy in my opinion. I'd like to see it in hand to determine just how awesome. Will you be at long beach?

Can you expand on where you discovered it? --Jerry

Shortgapbob

It should make an interesting story for PennyWise, the EAC publication.

coinkid855

Thanks guys! The next major show I will be at is Summer Fun probably.


-Paul

coinkid855

Oh, and Jerry, it's been sitting in this lady's lock box for 40 years...It was her father's. Apparently he was a jeweler.



-Paul

STONE

<< <i>Oh, and Jerry, it's been sitting in this lady's lock box for 40 years...It was her father's. Apparently he was a jeweler.

-Paul >>


I love stories like this. I know there are still rare treasures (die marriages, dates, etc) which have yet to come to light, but these are nice surprises every once in a while!

WaterSport

I think you got a winner there.

WS

nankraut

<< <i>I think you got a winner there.

WS >>



But----I think PCGS will probably "gennie" it.

MisterBungle

"But----I think PCGS will probably "gennie" it. "
-----
EACers don't think much of plastic anyway.

Just sayin'

~

coinkid855

The coin is on its way to pcgs!

notwilight

<< <i>The coin is on its way to pcgs! >>



Let us know how it turns out. I'm sure they will look at it carefully. Very cool to find this locked away in the possession of someone who knows nothing about coins. --Jerry

coinkid855

<< <i>

<< <i>I think you got a winner there.

WS >>



But----I think PCGS will probably "gennie" it. >>




I hope not. I'm hoping for AU53. I'll post the grade the second I get it.



-Paul

MFH

Great find and I'm pleased for your friend.
Having someone who knows coins is a major
benefit to non collectors - as so many get their
treasures maligned by the unscrupulous.

Not many casual coin store owners are that
well versed in the EAC - or what R value this
coin has. The knowledge found on this Forum
can't be underestimated.

Tdec1000

Are you going to try to remove the green stuff yourself prior to submission?

coinkid855

<< <i>Are you going to try to remove the green stuff yourself prior to submission? >>



Nope. I don't really see too much in hand...Again, my pics don't do this coin justice.



-Paul