BST question

dtkk49a

Hi,
Should I be suspicious of dealing with Chinese sellers on the BST? With all the Chinese fakes going around, I just want to be vareful. The person I am dealing with is in the US, Just wanted to know if anyone had any issues. No offense to any Chinese members.

commoncents05

No, knowledgeable board members would reply to the thread stating it's a fake.

-Paul

Ahrensdad

Um...really? See Paul's response above about the coins. As for the other implication...shame on you. Just because someone is of Chinese ethnicity doesn't automatically mean they're selling fakes.

WTCG

PNG membership notwithstanding, even though I've successfully dealt with dozens if not hundreds of forum members by way of the BST forum it appears that the OP and I won't be conducting any transactions anytime soon.

It's a shame when a person's prejudices and insecurities impede their numismatic goals. They have nobody but themselves to blame for allowing that to happen.

Anybody anywhere can be handling fake coins. It's not an exclusively Chinese problem.

llafoe

dtkk49a - WOW! Looks like everyone is more interested in politcal correctness than answering your question.

As you allude, just because they're Chinese doesn't mean that they're selling Chinese fakes. If they have a successful track record on the BST, you can probably trust them. Do a search and read their posts/see if their name appears in successful BST transactions. I understand your question and hesitation. You should never profile (how did you know they were Chinese) anyone for any reason.

Robb

If the member in question is WTCG, you just screwed the pooch.

Regardless of who the member is in the future, if you have any questions as to their reputation- simply ask for references and follow up.

Incredible amount of ignorance.

WTCG

<< <i>If the member in question is WTCG, you just screwed the pooch. >>



I'm not the member in question. There are other Asian forum members but not many.

savoyspecial

Columbia produces far and away more counterfeit material than China so perhaps you should expand your trade embargo

WTCG

This totally reminds me of a few instances in the not-that-distant past when the great silver dollar man Jack Lee was still around. As most people know, Jack assembled some of the best silver dollar sets ever.

Once in a seldom while some people wanted to know if Jack Lee was Chinese (Lee is also a Chinese surname), ready to make a disparaging comment something to the line of how disturbing it was to them that a Chinese could own the best American silver dollars, etc. As the folks who were familiar with Jack already knew, Jack was a traditional Southern gentleman from Mississippi. But just for kicks we loved those looks of disenfranchisement when some of us would falsely present Jack as an "honorary Chinese". Even Jack thought it was funny.

JustaRookie

IMO, this post should be poofed as it it alludes to, in a subitle way, a racist sterotype. No offense intended to the OP or the Asian members of this forum. All the banter about fakes coming from Asia has reached epidemic proportions. One just needs to do their research and educate themselves. When it doubt send a PM, search the archives for that psoters transactions, and just ask for references if in doubt. It does not matter what nationality, race, religion, nor creed one is as numismatics is blind. Education, education, education is the key. Just my opinion.

derryb

<< <i>Hi,
Should I be suspicious of dealing with Chinese sellers on the BST? With all the Chinese fakes going around, I just want to be vareful. The person I am dealing with is in the US, Just wanted to know if anyone had any issues. No offense to any Chinese members. >>


Legitimate question to ask this forum since postings on this forum are probably what made you leary to deal with a seller of Chinese origin. I don't consider the question racist. Discriminatory? Certainly, but I don't see that it violates Don's Posting Rules.

Some of the people calling you a racist would probably be singing a different tune if the address of your seller was in China. It's your money, feel free to discriminate where and with whom you spend it. No requirement to be politically correct when spending your hard earned money.

Ahrensdad

<< <i>dtkk49a - WOW! Looks like everyone is more interested in politcal correctness than answering your question.

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Actually, I'm just plain offended. PC has nothing to do with it. What's next, should I be concerned about doing business with someone because their skin is brown? In that case I'm screwed, because I'm asian and have brown skin.

derryb

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<< <i>dtkk49a - WOW! Looks like everyone is more interested in politcal correctness than answering your question.

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Actually, I'm just plain offended. PC has nothing to do with it. What's next, should I be concerned about doing business with someone because their skin is brown? In that case I'm screwed, because I'm asian and have brown skin. >>



Thicker skin would help.

stman

I would be suspicious of anyone I didn't know or didn't have any kind of reference to check. Especially the sneaky, slimy ones that never post and are either looking for someone to make a mistake, or looks like they are trying to rip it. I would also be suspicious of some members held in high regard, when I personally know they are sneaky and slimy.

Ahrensdad

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<< <i>dtkk49a - WOW! Looks like everyone is more interested in politcal correctness than answering your question.

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Actually, I'm just plain offended. PC has nothing to do with it. What's next, should I be concerned about doing business with someone because their skin is brown? In that case I'm screwed, because I'm asian and have brown skin. >>



Thicker skin would help. >>



Thanks, I'll work on that...LOL... Actually I have pretty thick skin...but can't help but call out the silly OP and the silly response about being politically correct.

derryb

<< <i>Hi,
Should I be suspicious of dealing with Chinese sellers on the BST? With all the Chinese fakes going around, I just want to be vareful. The person I am dealing with is in the US, Just wanted to know if anyone had any issues. No offense to any Chinese members. >>



How do you tell if a BST seller is Chinese?

llafoe

<< <i>Thanks, I'll work on that...LOL... Actually I have pretty thick skin...but can't help but call out the silly OP and the silly response about being politically correct. >>



Ahrensdad - I've had the "luxury" of fighting in three wars and living to the ripe-old age of 47. I've learned a long time ago not to try to interpret what someone is "saying", but to ask questions to clarify their words. Assuming someone is saying something they're not can be worse that what they're actually saying. The political correctness I alluded to was assuming the OP was in some way racist when his only crime may have been in the way he asked his question... afterall, it was only a question. How can you educate someone if you automatically label them and then discount them as racist? Why do you think I've had the "luxury" of fighting in so many wars?

RebelRon

<< <i>Um...really? See Paul's response above about the coins. As for the other implication...shame on you. Just because someone is of Chinese ethnicity doesn't automatically mean they're selling fakes. >>

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