GREAT candidate for crossover upgrade here with this Peace Dollar.

Alltheabove76 · May 23, 2010 5:55AM

I think this is a CLEARLY undergraded Peace Dollar. The value more than doubles between an MS64 and MS65 which is probably why they "4'd" it. I am gonna send it to PCGS. Should I crack it out and send it raw? Or should I send it in as-is? I think its an MS65+ Luster is about 8.5/10

Is there any way on earth this coin is not an MS65??

LindeDad · May 23, 2010 6:06AM

There are a lot of ways it is not a 65 IMO. Too many scuffs is my first impression.

Alltheabove76 · May 23, 2010 6:09AM

Really? I am now buying all my coins from you!

SeaEagleCoins · May 23, 2010 6:09AM

<< <i>I think this is a CLEARLY undergraded Peace Dollar. The value more than doubles between an MS64 and MS65 which is probably why they "4'd" it. I am gonna send it to PCGS. Should I crack it out and send it raw? Or should I send it in as-is? I think its an MS65+ Luster is about 8.5/10

Is there any way on earth this coin is not an MS65??

>>

All I am getting is a pair of red x's (edited because i can now see the coin)... but in answer to your question... regardless of what the coin looks like...

Of course there is a way on earth for ANY coin to be assigned an MS64... in this case, the way was to submit it to PCGS ...(edit)scratch that... NGC ...

Let us all lift up a glass of our favorite flavor of koolaid and give thanks for the experts who help us figure out what our coins are worth... Where on earth would we be without them?

(edit)...and now that I can see the coin... based on the pics... I think it is correctly graded and that a 65 would be an overgrade... JMHO

291fifth · May 23, 2010 6:10AM

Too many marks in the fields. 64

Alltheabove76 · May 23, 2010 6:13AM

Here is a PCGS MS65 from coinfacts. There is a significant mark/scratch on the obverse field right above "IN"

Weiss · May 23, 2010 6:15AM

Some chatter in front of her face, tons on her neck/bust.

The 65 from coinfacts has fewer ticks on field, face, and neck.

It's a great looking 64 (if you like insanely white coins).

Alltheabove76 · May 23, 2010 6:17AM

<< <i>Some chatter in front of her face, tons on her neck/bust.

The 65 from coinfacts has fewer ticks on field, face, and neck.

It's a great looking 64 (if you like insanely white coins). >>

Definately looks to have that "ammonia bath right before being submiitted" look. Thats fine with me as long as the luster is intact which in this case it is.

coinguy1 · May 23, 2010 6:28AM

<< <i>I think this is a CLEARLY undergraded Peace Dollar. The value more than doubles between an MS64 and MS65 which is probably why they "4'd" it. I am gonna send it to PCGS. Should I crack it out and send it raw? Or should I send it in as-is? I think its an MS65+ Luster is about 8.5/10

Is there any way on earth this coin is not an MS65??
>>

I think a better question would be "Is there any way on earth this coin is an MS65??" I don't think you're being at all objective. As has already been noted, there is obvious chatter on both sides, and it doesn't look nearly as clean/good as the MS65 Coinfacts example you later posted.

Alltheabove76 · May 23, 2010 6:28AM

Anyways, thanks for the reality check. I just get an MS65 vibe from this coin. Maybe its the luster and color messing with me.

DRUNNER · May 23, 2010 6:46AM

A very nice coin. Yes, it is a bit too white for my personal liking, but it certainly has merits. I believe it is a very nice 64 and has a lot of flash for a 64 also. But, I do not think it is a 'slam-dunk' for a 65.

Drunner

Alltheabove76 · May 23, 2010 6:55AM

The chatter is microscopic. Here is a PCGS MS64 from my collection.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · May 23, 2010 6:58AM

I think it's worth a try. I've seen worse get into 65 holders (for dates with this type of spread too). I don't think you'll get hurt.

AUandAG · May 23, 2010 7:20AM

My first impression is 65 no problem until I looked at the reverse and
saw the very weak stike (central) and the chatter above the ONE.

Nice 64 though.

bob

rainbowroosie · May 23, 2010 7:38AM

The two lines on the cheek are very noticeable and in a bad place.....64

TorinoCobra71 · May 23, 2010 7:48AM

<< <i>Too many marks in the fields. 64 >>

Looks like a solid MS64. Send in for crossover at MS64, other wise take your chances and crack it out......

TC71

coinkat · May 23, 2010 7:52AM

I like your 1928 more- this one just may have been viewed as having not having a strike consistant with what would be expected for a 65- but I do appreciate the later photo and close up of the obverse- I think there is a case for a 65, but for the date, I think it may be a dollar short.

It is a terrific coin and you should be proud to own it

Rollerman · May 23, 2010 8:35AM

It's really interesting how we can see coins differently. I think the concensus is this coin is a 64, and ought to crossover at that grade. I will add that it might need a +, but agree with a strong MS64 for this coin.
I saw the die cracks and wondered at first how a coin I thought had a nice strike have these indications of die wear. But on 2nd thought, I think the cracks may be because of incorrect (too much) die pressure.
Do the majority of you think this is a weak strike?
Best regards,
Pete

joebb21 · May 23, 2010 8:42AM

the coin would probably be more valuable in a pcgs 64 holder then ngc. assuming it gets at least a 64- you really cant go wrong..

Rampage · May 23, 2010 9:13AM

Kind of looks dipped and stripped to me. With your comparison picture, you cannot judge a 1926 dated coin with a 1922 dated one. I, too, saee too much chatter for anything better than an MS64. Look at the reverse field on the left. When I look at the reverse, my eyes are drawn to that chatter. As for the obverse, my eyes are immediately drawn to the mess along the rim between the L of LIBERTY and the 1 in the date.

All that said, however, you appear to be quite adament in your judgement of the coin being an MS65, so if you are that certain of yourself, then submit it to PCGS and get their opinion.

golfer72 · May 23, 2010 9:52AM

Nice coin. 65. Better than the 64 posted. You guys are tough, with other peoples coins!

mumu · May 23, 2010 9:57AM

I would be hoping for a + not a 65. 65 is too ambitious with all those luster breaks. It's a really nice coin and this is not meant as a knock on it at all.

eggbone · May 23, 2010 11:39AM

If not 65, should definitely be 64+.
Good luck

Weiss · May 23, 2010 12:53PM

Is that the right year for the "GOD" repunch? Because it sure seems to have that going for it.

TwoSides2aCoin · May 23, 2010 2:21PM

The key:
Sell it for MS 65+ money to someone who agrees with you, quick. But make sure he's happy with his choice because you wouldn't want to buy it back after he gets it in hand, at 90% of 65+ money, if he were to change his mind any time soon or possibly in the near future, would you ?

Note: I made the above statement based off of the photos.
Actual opinion is subject to change with coin in hand.

P.S.

I like your coin.

GREAT candidate for crossover upgrade here with this Peace Dollar.

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