Home U.S. Coin Forum

One way to skip jury duty…[transcription added]

…be essential to the Philadelphia Mint:

image

Comments

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    imageimage
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • firstmintfirstmint Posts: 1,171
    So the Philly Mint did clean coins in a special room, eh?
    PM me if you are looking for U.S. auction catalogs
  • 66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭
    I can't even read itimage
    Need something designed and 3D printed?
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    So the Philly Mint did clean coins in a special room, eh?

    Shhhhhhh...that's a Masonic Conspiracy Secret. Collectors "think" the mint cleaned planchets after annealing, but the Illuminati know better.
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    So, what's the year date?

    Doubt very seriously the foreman did the actual task work and would not have been missed. Maybe, but if they were the typical gov't employee back then, he drank coffee til 9, read the paper til 11, went to lunch, came back, then went to meetings and took off early. The director was just taking care of his buddy. (to boot, a secretary probably wrote the note)
    Chat Board Lingo

    "Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Funny, bet it didn't work!

    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cleaning room ? The head janitor had to stay because the mint was being pushed to capacity ? What year were the most coins made ?
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Bosbyshell was the Coiner. Handwriting is consistent with other letters of his and signature over several years.

    The year was 1877.

    The cleaning room cleaned all planchets after annealing. None of the jobs were especially easy and the work day was 9 hr for everyone except the Engravers (6 hr). The department heads had to prepare daily in/out reports and were usually present until all accounts balanced. If a clerk made a mistake, everyone in that Dept. had to stay until the discrepancy was identified. For example, if the Coining Dept came up short one $20 coin, the entire department remained behind, w/o extra pay, until the error was located and corrected.

    They did have a lot of government perks, too: Out houses that froze in winter and stunk in summer; one cold water tap and basin to wash in; a 10 minute break every 2 hours; no paid sick days; poor ventilation even in the melting room; sweltering summer heat; noxious fumes from zinc and tin; deafening noise; ½ hour for lunch usually eaten in a crowded, stuffy room; constant push for quantity; exposed equipment drive belts (new meaning for “…lend a hand”); suffocating work rules; halls filled with equipment; leaking sewage in the basement vaults….

    I could go on, but those are only some of the delights of working at the Philadelphia Mint in 1877.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After reading about the working conditions, I think Mr Reed should have quietly gone to court and taken a reprieve.
  • I cant read some of it can you translate it if its not to much trouble.
    Sorry bad eyes
    Positive:
    BST Transactions: DonnyJf, MrOrganic, Justanothercoinaddict, Fivecents, Slq, Jdimmick,
    Robb, Tee135, Ibzman350, Mercfan, Outhaul, Erickso1, Cugamongacoins, Indiananationals, Wayne Herndon

    Negative BST Transactions:
  • WHAT YEAR DO YOU THINK THIS WAS WRITTEN?
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Yes I'm wondering about the date too.

    Hey DM, is that you Dennis? Welcome aboard!
    Ed
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Ooops, I see it was 1877

    image
    Ed
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Transcription as requested:


    January 5th, 1877

    To the
    Honorable Judge of the
    Court of Oyer and Terminer, and Quarter Sessions

    Sir:
    Mr. John Reed the Foreman of the Cleaning Room in this Department is Summoned as a juror before your Court.

    The Mint is now being pushed to its utmost capacity, and the absence of any of the Employees causes a hinderence [sic] in our work. Particularly would we be greatly inconvenienced by Mr. Reed’s absence, as the Room he has charge of needs the help of every man in it.

    Under these circumstances, I trust you will have the goodness to excuse his attendance.

    Very Respectfully,
    Your Obedient Servant,
    O. C. Bosbyshell
    Coiner
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is what I come up with on the body of the letter. MJ

    edit as RWB beat me to it
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • 66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Transcription as requested:


    January 5th, 1877

    To the
    Honorable Judge of the
    Court of Oyer and Terminer, and Quarter Sessions

    Sir:
    Mr. John Reed the Foreman of the Cleaning Room in this Department is Summoned as a juror before your Court.

    The Mint is now being pushed to its utmost capacity, and the absence of any of the Employees causes a hinderence [sic] in our work. Particularly would we be greatly inconvenienced by Mr. Reed’s absence, as the Room he has charge of needs the help of every man in it.

    Under these circumstances, I trust you will have the goodness to excuse his attendance.

    Very Respectfully,
    Your Obedient Servant,
    O. C. Bosbyshell
    Coiner >>



    Thank you
    Need something designed and 3D printed?
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,607 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Strange that the year would only be the last digit "7" rather than "1877" or even just "77". Was this common practice at the time?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,921 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ive never seen the single digit year before. Usually something like '63.

    at least now we know who to blame for all the COIN CLEANING! image
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Using only the final year digit was fairly common in government documents.
    Also, some of the press copies have the first three digits printed on the original, but they did not copy very well, so only the last digit written by the clerk, is visible.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So, what's the year date?

    Doubt very seriously the foreman did the actual task work and would not have been missed. Maybe, but if they were the typical gov't employee back then, he drank coffee til 9, read the paper til 11, went to lunch, came back, then went to meetings and took off early. The director was just taking care of his buddy. (to boot, a secretary probably wrote the note) >>



    ...image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ive never seen the single digit year before. >>



    I'm seeing it used more and more frequently these days, usually in some hipster context.
    Me at the Springfield coin show:
    image
    60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
  • Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe the judge said no, and this is why so few 1877 IHC's were made!
  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Bosbyshell was the Coiner. Handwriting is consistent with other letters of his and signature over several years.

    The year was 1877.

    The cleaning room cleaned all planchets after annealing. None of the jobs were especially easy and the work day was 9 hr for everyone except the Engravers (6 hr). The department heads had to prepare daily in/out reports and were usually present until all accounts balanced. If a clerk made a mistake, everyone in that Dept. had to stay until the discrepancy was identified. For example, if the Coining Dept came up short one $20 coin, the entire department remained behind, w/o extra pay, until the error was located and corrected.

    They did have a lot of government perks, too: Out houses that froze in winter and stunk in summer; one cold water tap and basin to wash in; a 10 minute break every 2 hours; no paid sick days; poor ventilation even in the melting room; sweltering summer heat; noxious fumes from zinc and tin; deafening noise; ½ hour for lunch usually eaten in a crowded, stuffy room; constant push for quantity; exposed equipment drive belts (new meaning for “…lend a hand”); suffocating work rules; halls filled with equipment; leaking sewage in the basement vaults….

    I could go on, but those are only some of the delights of working at the Philadelphia Mint in 1877. >>




    image

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file