Umm... they both can't be right, can they?

coinpictures

I think these two coins are far too close in detail to be that far apart gradewise (I'm referring to the detail grade, not the problem). So is the first overgraded or the second undergraded or both?


PCGS calls this coin a VF25 (personally the obverse looks cleaned to me):




NCS calls this coin "F Details, Corroded":





Then add to the equation that the asking price on the first coin is almost 7 times the cost of the second...

Billyray

It may just be the color, but it looks like you can see a more distinct hairline on the second obverse

ProofCents

I agree color play to eye appeal and grade right or wrong

CaptHenway

The first one if Fine, cleaned and the second one is VF, corroded.
IMHO.

JRocco

Both coins have details and neither should be in a non-detail slab.

Well, looks like one is properly slabbed at least.
Whatever company slabbed the first coin should try to buy it back and pull it off the market.

Mercury10c

To me, the first coin looks a little sharper, especially the lettering. It may just have a better strike.
The details on those 2 are so close, I could see a VF-20 and F-15 or something like that, but not a
25 and a 12.

coinpictures

I realize that grading from pictures is always tough.

My own personal thought is that the reverse details are just a hair clearer on the PCGS VF25, but the obverse details are bolder on the NCS F Details. Overall, I think it's a wash and that ultimately they deserve the same details grade.

As I said in my orignal post with high-res pics of the latter piece, if it's a Fine, it's an F-19. My personal opinion is that it's a VF20, but I'm not an expert on this type and date.

Regardless of what the holders say I'm thrilled with the latter, I was just surprised at the rather large disparity in the grades given the equivalence of detail.

For what little it's worth, I think my coin is more original.

For $3,750 versus $550 there's no contest. Even at $1,500 versus $550 it would be no contest...

LindeDad

Then there is the possibility that neither got it right!

mumu

I think #2 looks better and with more details. Even appears to have some luster popping thru on the hair ends and lettering. Even the denticles look slighjtly sharper.

johnny9434

I like the 2nd one better. it looks a bit sharper ( as stated above ) but there both nice pick ups in any case best wishes

joebb21

is that pvc all around the first coin?

IrishMikey

Grading using images is hard -- grading copper coins using images is nearly impossible. I would think
that the EAC "Net" grades for these would be 10 to 12 for the first one and 7 to 8 for the second.