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1992 Donruss Diamond King Super

This one came in the mail today. I mean, I couldn't let Geordie be the only one with a DK Super, right?

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My girlfriend was excited that I was able to add the DK super to my collection, even after I told her how much it cost. Not too shabby, huh? She really wanted me to add the group hug emoticon, and I think she deserves that much. Here you go, Amy: image

The DK Super will sit along side my Donruss Aqueous as the twin pillars of my collection. Here's that one, as well:

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  • tunahead08tunahead08 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭
    Was that the one that was on eBay?
  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭
    That is a cool addition, congrats to you, and Amy too it sounds like.

    Are the white specks on the left side of the card near the border and also to the left of his top hand on the bat supposed to be on the Super? They don't seem to be on the normal card.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    Yes!!!!! Such a rare card - a fantastic addition to your Clark collection. I had no idea another had shown up on your radar, Drew! Details, man - where did you get it? I'm very surprised another turned up so soon after the one from a few months ago. Did you end up paying less than the other guy?

    edit - I found the auction you won. You won that for quite a bit less than you were willing to spend the first time around, so that worked out very nicely. Now that you've got the '92 Super and the Aqueous, what's next on the radar?
  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats...image

    Donato
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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    cool addition -- this is the first time I've heard about these, but they seem fantastic, and I never realized they were so rare and valuable.

    Cheers
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  • ajwajw Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That is a cool addition, congrats to you, and Amy too it sounds like.

    Are the white specks on the left side of the card near the border and also to the left of his top hand on the bat supposed to be on the Super? They don't seem to be on the normal card. >>



    Thanks, guys. As Geordie said, this is the second example to show up in the last few months, which is really surprising. When I lost the first one, I figured it could be years before another surfaced. For those that are unfamiliar, these were salesman samples for a set that was never issued. No one knows how many were made or how many survived.

    The couple that I have seen have had some white specks on the front - likely from having been stored in a binder for so long. I'm actually thrilled with the condition, but this card falls into the "any condition is fine" category for me. For comparison, a well-known Frank Thomas collector has one that looks like it's in a Chicago snowstorm.

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    As far as what's next...I don't know. These two have been at the top of my list for about 15 years, so it's hard to adjust. Honestly, I think the last of the tea discs would be the most exciting for me. There are others that would be more expensive, but I just love adding those silly little discs. Here's a link to my thread on those: 1980s Tea Discs
  • Kid4hof03Kid4hof03 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations Drew! I love seeing what you add to your Will Clark collection, marking this one off the list must be great.

    Abe
    Collecting anything and everything relating to Roger Staubach
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Wow, I didn't even know they existed. Nice snag.
  • thekid8thekid8 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭
    That is great -- I know the feeling --- congrats
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  • UlyssesExtravaganzaUlyssesExtravaganza Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on the card but I am more impressed with the girlfriend. A girlfriend who hears that you spent a lot on a card and is excited about it? Sounds like a keeper. And perhaps rarer than a Diamond King Super. Or a T206 Wagner.
  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,522 ✭✭✭✭
    Thought I'd share a scan of my copy of the Cal Ripken Jr. 92 DK Super....I actually obtained mine back in 1992 and was told at the time that they were made to present to executives @ K-Mart. Obviously, I'm not sure if that story is legit or not; but that's what I was told at the time..enjoy!

    IMF

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    WOW... I'd love to hear what you paid for that.
  • tunahead08tunahead08 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭
    So... Ironmanfan, you want to sell yours right? *waves hand like a jedi*
  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,522 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>WOW... I'd love to hear what you paid for that. >>



    Jeff: I hate to admit it, but it was so long ago I can't remember!

    IMF
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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Wow, that Ripken looks incredible!

    Is anyone getting their examples graded? They seem like they are roughly on the same size as the 1984-1986 Topps Super cards, but obviously much higher quality and production.
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  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    First time I've ever seen a Ripken - very nice.

    Since they're being shown off...

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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    One day I hope to join the ranks of you '92 Super owners.
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  • ajwajw Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    Very nice Jumbos, guys! I don't think I'd seen Ironmanfan's Ripken before. That's obviously one of the top dogs in the set, though I wonder if the crazy Will Clark fans may have pushed the last two examples to prices even higher than Cal would bring.

    I have always thought these were salesman samples, but I hadn't heard that they were specifically for a pitch to K-Mart. Interesting. It also looks like both the Ripken and Butler are in better shape than my Will. As you can see in my scan, there are a few white specks on it, though not nearly as many as on the Frank Thomas. I don't think they detract from the card at all, and in some ways they even add to the story a bit. I like to think that mine was carried inside a Donruss salesman's binder for a few months.

    Anyway, thanks for sharing the scans, guys.

    Here's the full checklist. A couple of HOFers, but not a lot of huge names. Frank and Cal are in the first tier, I'd say. Molitor, Boggs, Bagwell and Clark in the second. Of course, all it takes are two dedicated Julio Franco fans to push an auction well into the hundreds. Then again, if there's only one person that sees the auction, these could easily go for the minimum bid. I'm generally not a checklist guy, but I'd take the DK Super Checklist, if I could get one at a good price.

    Quite an interesting set...

    1 Paul Molitor
    2 Will Clark
    3 Joe Carter
    4 Julio Franco
    5 Cal Ripken, Jr.
    6 David Justice
    7 George Bell
    8 Frank Thomas
    9 Wade Boggs
    10 Scott Sanderson
    11 Jeff Bagwell
    12 John Kruk
    13 Felix Jose
    14 Harold Baines
    15 Dwight Gooden
    16 Brian McRae
    17 Jay Bell
    18 Brett Butler
    19 Hal Morris
    20 Mark Langston
    21 Scott Erickson
    22 Randy Johnson
    23 Greg Swindell
    24 Dennis Martinez
    25 Tom Phillips
    26 Fred McGriff
    27 Checklist
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on the pickup. Good news for you and bad news for me. Now, there's another Cardinals card that I need to get - the Felix Jose. I didn't know these existed. Are they in the SCD catalog? Are these things super rare?

    Shane

  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just did a little bit of (shall we say) research. Where is the icon for a big gulp? Holy schnikes!

    Shane

  • ajwajw Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So... Ironmanfan, you want to sell yours right? *waves hand like a jedi* >>



    [Someone out there] has one.

    Makes me feel like I got a deal on my Will Clark...

    (good luck!)
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    If they were for mgmt. / execs., I wonder if this is one of those issues [perhaps like N173 cabinets] whereby it is actually easier to find the Will Clark, Cal Ripken and Frank Thomas's than the Checklists and Greg Swindell's.

    Can you imagine being a salesperson going to a store owner or exec. and giving them a super size checklist? Or even a Scott Sanderson or Hank Morrison card? If they were produced in equal quantities, I imagine that a number of the commons have been tossed.
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  • ajwajw Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If they were for mgmt. / execs., I wonder if this is one of those issues [perhaps like N173 cabinets] whereby it is actually easier to find the Will Clark, Cal Ripken and Frank Thomas's than the Checklists and Greg Swindell's.

    Can you imagine being a salesperson going to a store owner or exec. and giving them a super size checklist? Or even a Scott Sanderson or Hank Morrison card? If they were produced in equal quantities, I imagine that a number of the commons have been tossed. >>



    That's a really interesting thought, and makes a lot of sense. (It's actually Hal Morris...I'll edit my earlier post.)

    Can someone with access to the pop report see how many of these PSA has graded? I was somewhat surprised to see that there's no registry set listed. Man, what other 1990s major company set could compete with this one on sheer difficulty and rarity?
  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,522 ✭✭✭✭
    I know its been 18 years, but my recollection at the time was that the guy I bought them from had a complete set and was just breaking it up to sell as singles.......I think there are as many Felix Joses as Cal Ripkens out there
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  • CollectorAtWorkCollectorAtWork Posts: 859 ✭✭✭
    I think Randy Johnson belongs in the top tier also, unless it's a different RJ.



    << <i>
    ...

    1 Paul Molitor
    2 Will Clark
    3 Joe Carter
    4 Julio Franco
    5 Cal Ripken, Jr.
    6 David Justice
    7 George Bell
    8 Frank Thomas
    9 Wade Boggs
    10 Scott Sanderson
    11 Jeff Bagwell
    12 John Kruk
    13 Felix Jose
    14 Harold Baines
    15 Dwight Gooden
    16 Brian McRae
    17 Jay Bell
    18 Brett Butler
    19 Hank Morris
    20 Mark Langston
    21 Scott Erickson
    22 Randy Johnson
    23 Greg Swindell
    24 Dennis Martinez
    25 Tom Phillips
    26 Fred McGriff
    27 Checklist >>

  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any ideas on how to come across a Felix Jose? I am watching Ebay, but that might take forever for one to come up. Anybody have any leads on one?

    Shane

  • ajwajw Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Any ideas on how to come across a Felix Jose? I am watching Ebay, but that might take forever for one to come up. Anybody have any leads on one? >>



    Patience. That's the only way with these. Hopefully one'll turn up eventually...
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    I've been following these cards with weekly active searches on multiple levels for years.

    I've seen the following either for sale or in collections:

    Clark x2
    Ripken x2
    McGriff x2
    Thomas x2
    Butler
    Franco


    I don't recall seeing any others.
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  • ajwajw Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I've been following these cards with weekly active searches on multiple levels for years.

    I've seen the following either for sale or in collections:

    Clark x2
    Ripken x2
    McGriff x2
    Thomas x2
    Butler
    Franco


    I don't recall seeing any others. >>



    Super interesting. Any chance you'd want to share how much they went for?
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    The only ones that aren't known would be a McGriff for around $110 at auction. The Thomases I believe went in the $500 and $800 range respectively, but that's been a long time ago and in private transactions.

    The Franco I believe was closer to $200, but I don't remember the details.
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  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,522 ✭✭✭✭
    Has PSA/DNA graded any of these?....Do they know they exist? I may bring my Ripken to the National to be slabbed
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  • 1980scollector1980scollector Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭
    I picked up about a month ago six cards that I think are Supers as well but not the 1992 Diamond Kings.

    They area in an Ultra Pro page that fits four cards to give you an idea of the size. The first two cards are "The Elite Series" 1993 Ryne Sandberg and Dave Winfield. The weird thing about these is these have serial #'s so were they box toppers or something. The Sandberg is #2 of 20 and #'d out of 5000 and the Winfield is #17 out of 20 and #'d out of 5000.

    The other four cards are the same size and come from a subset called 90's Dominators and serial #'d out of 10,000. I have Frank Thomas, Ken Griffey Jr, Fred McGriff and Joe Carter of those cards. I bought all six cards for six dollars and just thought they were different.

    Does anybody have any information on these type bigger cards?
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  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    Those were indeed box toppers in retail promotions at WalMart...similar to the intent of the 1992 Diamond Kind Supers...but the DKs were never put into production, so estimates of their quantities tend to fall under 10.

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  • 1980scollector1980scollector Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Those were indeed box toppers in retail promotions at WalMart...similar to the intent of the 1992 Diamond Kind Supers...but the DKs were never put into production, so estimates of their quantities tend to fall under 10.

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    Thank you for the reply and it sounds like not so rare items but I love the Elite series from Donruss (1991-1993 ones anyway).
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