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bidding on PSA N.Ryan's on eBay - got question ...

PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
in Buy, Sell & Trade - Cards & Memorabilia
I am just getting into PSA cards and although I am a PCGS coin collector at heart ; i'm getting some thrills thinking about owning some cards .

In the coin world , there is a real problem with fake coins, fake holders, etc

A novice like me could reason that it would be kinda easy to reproduce a cardboard square with a picture on it ...........

Are fake cards something you fellers worry about ?

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  • captainthreeputtcaptainthreeputt Posts: 1,235 ✭✭
    Just like coins, you really should buy from reputable sellers. Craigslist is a hot spot for counterfeits! Good luck, and nice to have you on the message board.
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  • WabittwaxWabittwax Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭
    Yeah there are fake cards floating around around out there. A couple that come to mind are the Michael Jordan RC and the 1990 Frank Thomas NNOF. If you buy cards in PSA holders, you won't really have to worry about it. They're pretty good at spotting fakes and won't holder them.

    As for fake holders, well, that's a whole nother story but I don't feel like getting banned from these boards and watching this thread go poof.
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agwee wit' da wascally wabbit above me image

    For the most part, both PCGS and PSA collectors share the same concerns.

    As for fake holders/slabs.....yes, unfortunately they do exist. As long as you know what to look for though, such as "frosting" on the slab's edges, and what the font on the flip should look like, you'll probably be ok.

    Just do your research and stick to reputable sellers, and I really doubt you'll run in to any major problems.


    Steve
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    In most cases, the older the card the harder it is to make a good fake.

    Paper, printing technique, and age, are harder to duplicate well.

    Topps cards are not old.
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    I was bidding on a Ryan Topp's 1969 on eBay , a PSA 9

    was told I would have to shell out around 1100$ for one ..........

    I stopped @ 690$ or so and it sold for around 750$
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>I was bidding on a Ryan Topp's 1969 on eBay , a PSA 9
    was told I would have to shell out around 1100$ for one ..........
    I stopped @ 690$ or so and it sold for around 750$ >>



    A "9" for $750.00????? NO WAY!

    Are you sure it did not have a qualifier, like a "9 o/c"?

    A nine goes for REAL BIG BUCKS!!!!
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  • SSSS Posts: 397
    Item 320529342939

    I bet that seller wasn't happy.

    Here is one with a BIN of $880 / no qualifiers

    item 310221619467
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Item 320529342939

    I bet that seller wasn't happy.

    Here is one with a BIN of $880 / no qualifiers

    item 310221619467 >>





    Those are both the same card (same cert number).

    It's also not the best 9 out there.....it is OC (not enough for the OC designation though), and it has a break in the black border on the upper-right.


    Steve
  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭✭
    be glad you missed that very mediocre 9
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  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭✭
    speaking of Ryans, I'd be cautious of raw 68 Ryans.
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a weak 9 in the Ebay link. You did well to avoid it. There is a nice one I believe in the current mile high auction. MJ
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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭


    << <i>be glad you missed that very mediocre 9 >>



    good advice image
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    Wow -checked out those PSA "10"'s @ the Mile High Auction .........holy mackerel's !!
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    Agreed...the bidder who won it for $710 stole the card and is looking for a quick flip.....mine is on Ebay as well for $1,250 OBO.....
  • italianstallionyankeesitalianstallionyankees Posts: 541


    << <i>

    << <i>be glad you missed that very mediocre 9 >>



    good advice image >>



    It is also in an older generation flip. The card today would probably grade a Psa 8 or possible Psa 8.5 .
    It is just to oc left to right to be considered in a Psa 9 mint holder. Imho

    Good luck, a good guy to collect!

    Ryan image

    Edited to add, the Psa 9 that sold for $710 in the older flip hologram
    1938 Cartledge Boxing cards psa 7 - psa 10
    1951 Topps Red backs psa 8 only!
    1960 Golden Press Presidential set Psa 8 's - Psa 9's
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    1980 Kelloggs baseball Psa 9's - Psa 10's
    1988-1989 Fleer Basketball psa 9's
    1988-1989 Fleer Stickers psa 9's
    1989-1990 Fleer Basketball psa 10's
    1992 Coca-Cola Donruss Nolan Ryan 1-26 Psa 10 only Gpa 9.80++ E-mail Newyork00007@aol.com
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    I just dropped the price on mine, but as long as that dog '9' sticks around, then everyone will think that $700 is the going rate for a 1969 Topps Ryan in a PSA 9! Darn it VCP!!
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    Mine is on Ebay right now....99 cents, no reserve!
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    Still a steal...and better looking than the ugly one that brought $710.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    Only $350, ending tonight....
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    737$ I see is what your card brought , sorry it did not bring more .
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    It's OK...I feel like the BIG LOTS of the graded card world. The only people bidding on my cards are resellers and bargain hunters. Not that there is anything wrong with that, it's just I have given SOOOOOOO many cards away lately, that it is making me lose faith in Ebay (at least in the auction format anyway!)....
  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    The biggest problem out there with fake PSA holders are what have become known as the Craigslist fakes, because they appear to have been orignally sold there. The easiest way to tell, if you're experienced with PSA cards, is that they used a wrong font on the flip. Search for threads on this board on "Craigslist fakes" for more information, including pictures.

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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    thanks Nick - thats great advice
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