1752 Thaler. Genuine?

harasha

I came across this item while exploring the world of thalers struck during the reign of Maria Theresa. I would appreciate the comments of the membership and have posted the images in a larger size than usual, as I have concerns about this coin. Thanks in advance.

Rickc300

As I am sure others will say, it is hard to tell from pics. It has a few flags for me as well, I hate seeing raised spots, unless it was struck with some very rusted (pitted) dies and then circulated heavily to get some dings and digs as well. I think I would pass on that one if it were being offered to me. I agree with your assessment, I have concerns about that one. Phone EEE in my opinion

Bjorn

Possible casting bubbles, and the tone looks all wrong, almost like copper-nickel... just my opinion.

OchoReales

Since it is not irreplacable, I'd pass.

coinkat

Pass- too many red flags

Muygrandeoso

Sure looks cast to me

satootoko

I'm always more comfortable about attributing a Maria Theresa if I can see the edge, but my gut says the previous posters have it right.

Aethelred

I think the coin is o.k., just struck from rusted dies. Having said that I'd like to know the weight and look at it in person. If the seller has a good reputation and a return policy buy it, if not pass.

ajaan

Coin looks OK to me but I'm no expert.

Walter

Bubbly fields, even on the lettering (see right of reverse), soft central strike and dull for its condition. I'd say its a cast copy.

satootoko

Besides the bubbly surface, the denticles look pretty uneven.

coinkat

Look at the 5 in 1752

Cast copy from a coin struck with rusted dies?

Seriously- IMHO, It is a pass based on the overall appearance

harasha

Aethelred, the vendor is very reputable, a member of the IAPN in fact, and his return policy is liberal. As for the weight, I weigh it at 27.9 grams. A different type from the same mint, around the same time, lists the weight as 28.06 grams, so I am comfortable with the weight, at least.

satootoko, I am attaching four pictures of the rim. By the way, the vendor is from your neck of the woods, I believe.

broberts127

I think it's genuine. The edges look a bit banged up but it looks good to me.

Meiji

Personally I think the coin is a cast coin.

1) The cast bubbles
2) The letters looks bubbly and wavy.
3) The denticles look soft and bumpy

I've included an image of a genuine coin for comparison.

JimK

Personally, I would hold out for a nicer one...
Jim