This got graded a 6. What do you think it deserves?

chris777

This got a 6. What do you think it deserved?

toothshucker

8.5

mlbfan2

That's a 9. What do I win?

hhmag70

8

chris777

I agree with you guys!!

italianstallionyankees

Wow... A 6? Does the card have a small wrinkle or surface bump?

Ryan

italianstallionyankees

It looks like a 8 .. or 1/2 better ,
slight tilt though

chris777

itallions.... i don't see any wrinkle or bump. Pretty nice surface and corners (except for some slight wear on one of the corners).

Blacklabelsociety

looks like a 8-8.5

captainthreeputt

crack it and re-submit. It definitely looks like atleast an 8. If it comes back a 6 again, you will know you are missing small crease or something.

bsidegrve

Not sure, but the area highlighted may be the problem

dizzle

<< <i>Not sure, but the area highlighted may be the problem



>>



BINGO.. was thinking the same thing..

chris777

bsidegrve and dizzle,

that's the little black line printed by the factory. I thought it was very common on these cards. Does that black line bring down the card 1 or 2 grades?

dizzle

<< <i>bsidegrve and dizzle,

that's the little black line printed by the factory. I thought it was very common on these cards. Does that black line bring down the card 1 or 2 grades? >>



Hmm.. I'm aware of the line just never saw it on the edge like that..

It looked like a rubber band mark or something in the scan..

chris777

It's the black mark on the edge of the card. Look at this card with the mark and it gets an 8.

corvette1340

PSA 5

SDSportsFan

Not sure what it is, but I see somethin' on the first scan, edge, directly above Dr. J's head.


Steve

corvette1340

you may want to get it regraded and point out the thumb image above Magic's head. I believe that is an error variation and extremely rare.

SDSportsFan

Also, I know this card is known for having black print lines (not what's on this particular example, but print lines on the upper-right corner) on the Magic third.....but what about what appears to be white print dust on the bottom-right quarter of the Magic image?


Steve

chris777

Sdsports, that's a red print spot from the factory, same with the red spot way above magic's head on the edge of the colored border.

corvette, I took the pic with a digital cam. Those are glare off the reflection of the case.

chris777

<< <i>Also, I know this card is known for having black print lines on the Magic third.....but what about what appears to be white print dust on the bottom-right quarter of the Magic image?


Steve >>


Good eye! That is white print dust. I've seen these cards with tons of it all over the face of the card and got better grades than a 6.

SDSportsFan

<< <i>Sdsports, that's a red print spot from the factory, same with the red spot way above magic's head on the edge of the colored border. >>



Yea, I see the red print spot, but above that on the very white edge of the card, I'm seein' an indent or a dot or somethin' else.....


Steve

chris777

<< <i>

<< <i>Sdsports, that's a red print spot from the factory, same with the red spot way above magic's head on the edge of the colored border. >>



Yea, I see the red print spot, but above that on the very white edge of the card, I'm seein' an indent or a dot or somethin' else.....


Steve >>


The edge is tiny chipping. Or could be slight cuts where the factory might often make that damage behind the edge of the card. I've heard people tell me that that damage is not a big deal because it's common.

otwcards

There's a small back wrinkle coming in from the edge just under the word "Magic" in the sentence "Magic led the Lakers . . ." Look at it and tilt it and you will see it.

Ahmanfan

<< <i>Sdsports, that's a red print spot from the factory, same with the red spot way above magic's head on the edge of the colored border.

corvette, I took the pic with a digital cam. Those are glare off the reflection of the case. >>



Funny, 'vette!

I'm no expert, but he may have been kidding.

bsidegrve

<< <i>that's the little black line printed by the factory >>



I don't follow these that much, but I don't recall seeing the print line sit so close to the edge in that location.



<< <i>Does that black line bring down the card 1 or 2 grades? >>



Again I don't follow these much, but I don't think they downgrade on this card for the factory print line

SDSportsFan

<< <i>There's a small back wrinkle coming in from the edge just under the word "Magic" in the sentence "Magic led the Lakers . . ." Look at it and tilt it and you will see it. >>




Yep, I see that too. I'm also seeing another back wrinkle coming in from the edge between Johnny Kerr's and Chet Walker's names on the Dr. J third.

It sounds like when you put all this together.....the white print snow, the back wrinkles, the ding on the card's edge above Dr. J's head.....you get a PSA 6.


Steve

chris777

These pics were taken with a digital camera, nowhere as crisp as a scanner, so you guys are seeing lots of glare.

bsidegrve

<< <i>There's a small back wrinkle coming in from the edge just under the word "Magic" in the sentence "Magic led the Lakers . . ." Look at it and tilt it and you will see it. >>




We have a winner folks!

chris777

What you guys are seeing is all over the back. Here is the pic double the size.

corvette1340

I still think you should resubmit it and tell them to note the thumb error on the flip. Just send in the picture with your sub.

chris777

<< <i>I still think you should resubmit it and tell them to note the thumb error on the flip. Just send in the picture with your sub. >>


Ha ha.... good one!! I have to admit, your 5.5 grade was funny. You guys are like Sherlocke Holmes!!!

italianstallionyankees

<< <i>It's the black mark on the edge of the card. Look at this card with the mark and it gets an 8.

>>



That is one old flip! I wonder what year the card was graded?

Ryan

Morgoth

100% sure there is a back wrinkle above the number 174 that curls over the perforation between the Dr. J and Magic card.

Morgoth

Also you need to show the flips to prove the grades are what you say they are.

hammered

<< <i>Also you need to show the flips to prove the grades are what you say they are. >>



That's what I was thinking

MULLINS5

<< <i>

<< <i>Also you need to show the flips to prove the grades are what you say they are. >>



That's what I was thinking >>



me too

grote15

This card isn't a PSA 6 in the first place..