How do clashed dies impact value???

RB1026

What's the impact of clashed dies on the value of a coin??? Let's say the coin is solid for the grade, PCGS graded and exhibits evidence of clashed dies. Is the value affected??

I personally like clashed dies and would pay a premium. What say you??

Roger

blu62vette

matter of personal preference, I really like them. Others dont feel the same way. It probably depends some on the series.

ambro51

value isnt changed but cherrypickers delight in clean strikes and usually look for pristine coins. some like clashes...and look for them. All equals out in the end.

ProofArtworkonCircs

I think it depends on the nature of the clash and of the customer.
Morgans with an "E" and Ikes with a "U" are quite desireable. But I can picture somebody not wanting a non-descript clash.

RB1026

I appreciate the opinions offered so far. Anyone else??

Roger

Sonorandesertrat

Some types of clash marks do add value. For example, 1857 Flying Eagle cents with multidenominational clash marks that are clear do bring more money--check the Eagle Eye website.
There are about a dozen kinds of coins with multidenominational clash marks--all are worth quite a bit more than similar coins without such marks. In some other cases, very heavy clash marks
can be striking to see---Barndog showed photos of his 1837 Capped Bust half dime with heavy clash marks on the reverse that include the full date. This coin is also beautifully toned, and would bring multiples
of its 'book value' if put up for auction.

howards

I like clashed dies. I'll pay a small premium. Even wrote an article about them:



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Billyray

Just gotta sell to the right people.

Error collectors will see it as a gem and pay a premium, but some people see it as a defect and wouldn't touch it.

19Lyds

<< <i>Just gotta sell to the right people.

Error collectors will see it as a gem and pay a premium, but some people see it as a defect and wouldn't touch it. >>



Agreed.

I payed a nice premium for this one..........



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crazyhounddog

I really like clashing, it gives the coin more character and I also will pay a small premium if I like the clashing...

BaseballAbs

I have seen no such premiums, but they may exist.

lkeigwin

I like them and have paid a premium. Here's an example.
Lance.

Billyray

<< <i>I have seen no such premiums, but they may exist. >>



That's just it, it depends on the individual buyer. There's really no set %

Moldnut

<< <i>Some types of clash marks do add value. For example, 1857 Flying Eagle cents with multidenominational clash marks that are clear do bring more money--check the Eagle Eye website.
There are about a dozen kinds of coins with multidenominational clash marks--all are worth quite a bit more than similar coins without such marks. In some other cases, very heavy clash marks
can be striking to see---Barndog showed photos of his 1837 Capped Bust half dime with heavy clash marks on the reverse that include the full date. This coin is also beautifully toned, and would bring multiples
of its 'book value' if put up for auction. >>



I agree, the multidenominational clashes do bring in more money and are very cool.

lakeshore

Here's a clash with a $20 Gold piece ........

fcloud

This one has a neat die clash, but I think the DDO outweights the die clash.

Sonorandesertrat

<< <i>Other than FECs I am not aware of any premium and the obly reason FEC's seem to carry a premium is because the clash is from a completely different type of coin so there is a coolness factor. >>



A multidenominational clash mark is due to die clashing from mismatched dies. Ones that I have seen include the following:
1857 cent with rev. Seated quarter clash
1857 cent with obv. Liberty double eagle clash
1857 cent with obv. Seated half clash
1870 nickel with obv. cent clash
1864LM 2-cent piece with rev. cent clash (the clash marks on these tend to be hard to see)
1857 quarter with rev. cent clash
1868 3-cent piece with obv. cent clash

If the seller knows what he has, all will be priced at a large premium because of the clash marks.

crazyhounddog

<< <i>I like them and have paid a premium. Here's an example.
Lance.

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That is one beautiful capper Lance, and very cool clashing...

Barndog

specialists who collect capped bust half dimes by die marriage and remarriage can get pretty particular after they have amassed an "advanced collection." So we start looking for cool die stages or other things that make a coin valuable for us to own. So when one of us finds something really cool -- even if it is the result of a simple clash -- that nobody else has, it becomes more valuable.

Here's an example: This half dime has the date clashed so heavily that it shows up on the reverse of the coin. Show me another one if you can and then show me one in better shape!

lkeigwin

Nice, Barndog! I like that very much. Great photos too.
Lance.

LanLord

I can't/won't speak for anyone else, but in my most desired area of collecting (bust coins) I'd usually rather have a clash to give me something to look at.

Occasionally, a non-clashed die marriage is rare or extremely rare, and in that case I will always keep an eye open for it. But I always get a feeling of accomplishment when I find a coin that has been struck from munched dies so many years ago!

crazyhounddog

I sold this coin for $2000.00 and made quite a profit.

ProofArtworkonCircs

<<A multidenominational clash mark is due to die clashing from mismatched dies. Ones that I have seen include the following:
1857 cent with rev. Seated quarter clash
1857 cent with obv. Liberty double eagle clash
1857 cent with obv. Seated half clash
1870 nickel with obv. cent clash
1864LM 2-cent piece with rev. cent clash (the clash marks on these tend to be hard to see)
1857 quarter with rev. cent clash
1868 3-cent piece with obv. cent clash

If the seller knows what he has, all will be priced at a large premium because of the clash marks.>>

Weren't the 1857 clashes diue to hanky-panky at the mint?

Baley

it absolutely depends... sometimes it's neutral because it's a minor or common or uninteresting clash. sometimes a clash line resembles a scratch and this then must be explained at sale, a slight negative on liquidity.

obviously, sometimes it adds a lot of value, as in the off-denomination clashes caused when workers have fun playing with the machinery

other significant clashes transfer, for example, prominent arrows above the head of liberty in a variety of capped bust quarter, multiplying the value

COALPORTER

I tend to like die clashes and think they are interesting. I would not really pay more though. Clashing is very common on most of the coins I collect, so it is not rare of a big deal. For coins like the 3 cent nickel, the reverse clash can improve the look of the coin, because it changes the way light reflects and really makes the coin look high relief and more lusterious. Some coins are too clashed , thus part of the design is destroyed or missing. This, imo, crosses the line into damage. I have some coins that i would sell at a discount because of this. There are some market snakes out there that would know how to spin this around and pump it for a profit, but just because hucksters find someone willing to pay more does not really mean it was "worth it".

tydye

I find them interesting and a clash has sold me on a coin but the premium was minor.

A pet project of mine has been collecting 1814 CBHs and noting the die progession through clashes and die cracks for each variety. 1814 is a great year for clashes in the capped bust half series.

howards

Here are photos of a couple shield nickel clashes that are definitely worth a premium (in the case of the 1870, a large premium).

First, an 1866, with a very heavily clashed obverse:



Second, the 1870 obverse clashed with the obverse of an IHC. Best guess is that this required mint monkeyshines to produce.

jamakin

This is a nice trickle I picked up off ebay many moons ago with a serious die clash on the reverse:


I have two other examples of clashing from the same year but no pics for them yet