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magicmarvmagicmarv Posts: 11
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I know its a trade dollar minted by the US, but I can not identify the country it was made for.
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    FilthyBrokeFilthyBroke Posts: 3,518


    Pictures aren't showing for me. You may need to host them on Photobucket or similar, and link them here.


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    You cannot post pictures from your harddrive. You will need to upload your pictures to the web, either on this site or some other. Photobucket is a popular free web posting site, or your ISP may provide you space on the web for pictures.
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    satootokosatootoko Posts: 2,720


    << <i>I know its a trade dollar minted by the US, but I can not identify the country it was made for. >>

    The US Mint (1873-88), British mints in Bombay and Calcutta (1859-1935) and London (1925, 1930) and the Tokyo and Osaka Mints (1875-77) are the only ones producing 420 grain .900 silver coins designated "Trade Dollar", although other countries (e.g. Austria with its Maria Therese Thalers) also produced silver coins for use in Asia and the Middle East where currency traded by weight. US Trade Dollars were not "made for" any specific country.
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    BillyrayBillyray Posts: 98
    Trade Dollar wikipedia
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    magicmarvmagicmarv Posts: 11
    Newbie?? Only to this board my friend - thought someone out there might help me identify it. First time I've asked in the 10 years I've been a member of PCGS. Not much help though, no one seems to be able to identify it.

    Thanks for the comment though.
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    magicmarvmagicmarv Posts: 11
    They should be showing now - I would appreciate it if you can help me identify before I sent it in for grading.

    Regards
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    magicmarvmagicmarv Posts: 11
    Update - I suspect it could be a fake, the obverse is a mexican 8 reale dated 1885, reverse being that of a US Trade dollar. Strange thing is - it is silver as I've tested it.

    My best option appears to be send it to PCGS and pay to have it confirmed one way or the other. Who knows, maybe its real and the only one in the world! :-)

    Thanks for all of your comments - Billyray for the trade dollar wikipedia link.

    Regards
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    FilthyBrokeFilthyBroke Posts: 3,518
    Doesn't sound like it would be a coin, maybe a token or fantasy piece? If you can get a picture up then these guys could probably save you the submission fees.
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    BillyrayBillyray Posts: 98


    << <i>Newbie?? Only to this board my friend - thought someone out there might help me identify it. First time I've asked in the 10 years I've been a member of PCGS. Not much help though, no one seems to be able to identify it.

    Thanks for the comment though. >>



    That's my sig, wasn't calling you a newbie. sorry if there was any confusion
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    BillyrayBillyray Posts: 98


    << <i>the obverse is a mexican 8 reale dated 1885, reverse being that of a US Trade dollar. >>



    As far as i know, there's no mules combining 2 different countries coin sides. The US coins were minted in the US mints and the Mexican coins were minted in Mexico mints.
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    spoonspoon Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭
    Odd.. I would say something like that is 99.9999% likely not a genuine coin, whether silver or not.

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    Billy, there actually are a few 2 country mules, the New Zealand 2c / Bahamas 5c is probably the most famous and common.

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    BillyrayBillyray Posts: 98
    True, i should of clarified different mints, not different countries
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    magicmarvmagicmarv Posts: 11
    Very strange, the pix show on my side here - lets see if I can figure it out. Thanks to everyone for info so far.
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    magicmarvmagicmarv Posts: 11
    See if you can open these please
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    WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would be interested in when and where this item was purchased.

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    satootokosatootoko Posts: 2,720


    << <i>See if you can open these please >>

    Oh yeah.

    Can you say "Phone knee"?
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    JimKJimK Posts: 605
    Just for the heck of it, here's a couple of iimages for comparison-

    Obverse of 1885 GoRR 8R
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    Reverse of 1878-S Trade Dollar
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    magicmarvmagicmarv Posts: 11
    It was a couple of years ago and on eBay
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    magicmarvmagicmarv Posts: 11
    Appears from Jim's post that there are a few of these around - so you're sure they are phoney?
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    magicmarvmagicmarv Posts: 11
    Jim, Ray seems to think they are fake - is that your take too?
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    magicmarvmagicmarv Posts: 11
    Phoney or not - it is silver, I tested it for that for what's it worth. Only paid $12 for it on eBay - thanks to all for helping me identify it. Great bunch of folks.
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    mudskippiemudskippie Posts: 540 ✭✭


    << <i>Jim, Ray seems to think they are fake - is that your take too? >>



    For a coin that isn't listed in any books or catalogs, your chance of a counterfeit/ not genuine coin is 99.999%. BTW, there is a huge number of fantasy (privately struck) pieces that content 50% to almost 99.9% precious metal.
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    magicmarvmagicmarv Posts: 11
    Agree with that, I figured it was fake but not being an expert - well one never knows. Thank you to all that contributed to this thread - I appreciate the PCGS community.
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