Toying with the idea of buying a spanish milled dollar....

For some reason Id like to get a spanish milled dollar. Can anybody give me a light and breezy overview on them? Prices, average grades, problems with fakes etc etc.
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How much can one expect to pay for an average-circulated example? Is counterfeiting a problem with these?
It was in my personal collection until I upgraded.
Here's a crusty one from the internet:
Most are cleaned and ugly. Look for one that has some originality.
The CRO guys usually have these in their EB list, so if this one does not suit you, ask CCU if he has any others.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
<< <i>So whats the cheap way out RYK? Im not grade hungry just want a typical specimen, ugly is fine. >>
I saw one for $85 at the Mount Vernon gift shop two years ago. It was worn and cleaned. Call before you go to make sure it is still there.
<< <i>So whats the cheap way out RYK? Im not grade hungry just want a typical specimen, ugly is fine. >>
Now there's a recipe for future regret.
I agree with RYK's recommendation of CRO / CCU.
<< <i>So whats the cheap way out RYK? Im not grade hungry just want a typical specimen, ugly is fine. >>
contact daniel frank sedgewick and ask for a shipped wreck sea salvaged piece.
will come with an authenticity certificate of the shipwreck too.....
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
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<< <i>So whats the cheap way out RYK? Im not grade hungry just want a typical specimen, ugly is fine. >>
contact daniel frank sedgewick and ask for a shipped wreck sea salvaged piece.
will come with an authenticity certificate of the shipwreck too..... >>
I just bought one of those for $15
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<< <i>So whats the cheap way out RYK? Im not grade hungry just want a typical specimen, ugly is fine. >>
contact daniel frank sedgewick and ask for a shipped wreck sea salvaged piece.
will come with an authenticity certificate of the shipwreck too..... >>
I just bought one of those for $15
thats cheap....
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
You should ask over on the Darkside - you'll probably get some really good answers
Check out the Southern Gold Society
not cheap......
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
many are modern reproductions but not all of them are marked "copy" as they should be.
Below is link to a 1760 replica:
Link 1760
"many contacts among the Lumberjacks "
NGC Registry AOEDAD sets:
Set #1 Major Expositions
Set #2 So-called Dollar Collections
So-called $50 Slug Facsimiles
Bashlow re-strikes
I quit buying these( thay are cool coins) and started buying early dollars, twenty years ago.
Cool road to go down. Good luck.
Brian
By the way were any ever minted in the Western Hemisphere. Seems like all I have seen or heard of were from the Madrid mint.
<< <i>By the way were any ever minted in the Western Hemisphere. Seems like all I have seen or heard of were from the Madrid mint. >>
Take a look at the coins pictured in this thread- they were all made in Mexico.
edited to add... well, all of them posted *before* I wrote this, anyway.
This one was minted in Peru.
<< <i>A very nice portrait 8 Reales can be had for $50 to $100. >>
Live large and get one of these, as a bonus you get a little head...
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<< <i>A very nice portrait 8 Reales can be had for $50 to $100. >>
Live large and get one of these, as a bonus you get a little head...
Britain stamped the head of King George III on captured Spanish 8 Real coins so they could circulate in Britain resulting in the popular saying:
To make the dollar of Spain
for 5 Shillings pass,
stamp the head of a fool
on the neck of an ass.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>ambro51 - this is a surprise. I figured you would be a half escudo type.
By the way were any ever minted in the Western Hemisphere. Seems like all I have seen or heard of were from the Madrid mint. >>
Did someone mention 1/2 E?
Cheap way is to buy a 2 or 4 reales instead of a 8.
My minimal experience in this area suggests that, for some reason, the pillar 4R is the most expensive denomination.
Given his penchant for small coins, the 1/2 R might be ambro's best bet, and they seem to be the least expensive.
And as someone mentioned earlier, Sedgwick Coins has a nice selection of old Spanish coins of the colonial era. There are quite a few nice cobs of all denominations available for reasonable prices.
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
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<< <i>So whats the cheap way out RYK? Im not grade hungry just want a typical specimen, ugly is fine. >>
contact daniel frank sedgewick and ask for a shipped wreck sea salvaged piece.
will come with an authenticity certificate of the shipwreck too..... >>
There is a great story that goes with this concerning the politics of the Louisana Purchase. Bottom line of the story is that if the ship hadn't sunk, people west of the Mississippi would be speaking Spanish now (not that they don't now).
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Ken
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>ambro51 - this is a surprise. I figured you would be a half escudo type. >>
Gonna have to agree here. Wasn't the 1/2 escudo equivalent to a gold dollar?
Edit: And I guess I'll throw my 1804 in for good measure:
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The little gold spanish gold coins in this thread, they are neat and all...but not what Im focused on at the moment.
I meant this to refer to the gold half escudo only which is gold dollar size.
There is one pictured (enlarged) elsewhere in this thread and it too is the Madrid mint (crown over M).
<< <i>Britain stamped the head of King George III on captured Spanish 8 Real coins so they could circulate in Britain resulting in the popular saying:
To make the dollar of Spain
for 5 Shillings pass,
stamp the head of a fool
on the neck of an ass. >>
PerryHall, Thanks as I never heard that saying!