More impressive SF set: 1854 or 1870??

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savoyspecial
savoyspecial Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭✭
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If you could have one example of each minted coin from the San Francisco Mint, would you choose the year 1854 or 1870?


(this should pit gold lovers on one side and silver lovers on the other)

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  • RYK
    RYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1854, of course!
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1870. Since I already have the first CC dollar I'd like one of the first S dollars to go with it!
    image
    photo by blu62vette.

    bob
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • LanLord
    LanLord Posts: 11,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'll take an order of each, with a side of 1901 please
  • savoyspecial
    savoyspecial Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭✭
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    RYK, would your answer change if we assumed the 1870-S Quarter was minted and included it in our hypothetical?

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  • PerryHall
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    The 1870-S $3 gold is the only unique U.S. gold coin so I'll pick 1870.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • RYK
    RYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>RYK, would your answer change if we assumed the 1870-S Quarter was minted and included it in our hypothetical? >>



    No, I love the 54-S QE and HE, two coins that were struck for circulation and actually did circulate.

    I have the 54-S $10 and $20...I'll post pics later.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • tradedollarnut
    tradedollarnut Posts: 20,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1870. Unique half dime and quarter trumphs the unique [and mutilated] $3. And I'd rather have the dollar than the $2.5 and $5
    Early Dollar Set
  • COALPORTER
    COALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
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    1870 hand down. image
  • Aegis3
    Aegis3 Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭
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    I like rarities not thought about as often, so I have to prefer 1854 what with the half eagle.
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • OchoReales
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    I love the history of 1850's California so I'm gonna vote 1854 based on my historical perspective more than focusing on the rarity of a particular years' coinage.
    Lurker since '02. Got the seven year itch!

    Gary
  • adamlaneus
    adamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
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    Wow. What a choice. The opening year of the first mint or the inaugural year of the second mint.

    What would be most impressive is the discovery and display of the cornerstone coins.
  • speety
    speety Posts: 5,424 ✭
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    << <i>1870. Since I already have the first CC dollar I'd like one of the first S dollars to go with it!
    photo by blu62vette.

    bob >>



    image And you thought yours had problems imageimage

    imageimage
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>

    << <i>1870. Since I already have the first CC dollar I'd like one of the first S dollars to go with it!
    photo by blu62vette.

    bob >>



    image And you thought yours had problems imageimage

    Wow, that's soooo cooooool! Hey, Mark, a dollar was a dollar in those days. Just money to be used, abused, spent and dented.

    I like it!
    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • HoledandCreative
    HoledandCreative Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Probably had some nice engraving. I wonder when it was "fixed". A great coin. Thanks for posting it.
  • speety
    speety Posts: 5,424 ✭
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    << <i>Probably had some nice engraving. I wonder when it was "fixed". A great coin. Thanks for posting it. >>



    It was 'fixed' (for the first time?) while or prior to Boyd owning the coin (sometime between 1926 and 1954). The coin appears not to have been tooled since the Boyd sale, however the pictures in that sale aren't really good enough to tell for sure. The initials were FHI, any clue on what they could mean?
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • BillJones
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    If you leave out the unique 1870-S $3 gold piece, I'd take the 1854 from the historical perspective.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • COALPORTER
    COALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
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    Well, why stop at 1854 then? Don't US Assay coins count ?
  • Billet7
    Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
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    1870


    Unless you left out the $3 piece, then my choice would change.
  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>Well, why stop at 1854 then? Don't US Assay coins count ? >>



    No. They were not U.S. mint issues.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • crypto79
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    54 if you threw in a 48 cal for good messure
  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>54 if you threw in a 48 cal for good messure >>



    Why not also throw in the King of Siam proof set while were at it.image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • COALPORTER
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    << <i>

    << <i>Well, why stop at 1854 then? Don't US Assay coins count ? >>



    No. They were not U.S. mint issues. >>



    I think i have read Donald Kagin assert that they do indeed count. Good enough for him, good enought for me. image
  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Well, why stop at 1854 then? Don't US Assay coins count ? >>



    No. They were not U.S. mint issues. >>



    I think i have read Donald Kagin assert that they do indeed count. Good enough for him, good enought for me. image >>



    I also have his book. These weren't U.S. coins since they were never authorized by law. They were actually gold ingots stamped by a government official in California with weight, fineness, and value.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • fc
    fc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
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    54 please.
  • partagas
    partagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
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    1870, and I pray a 70-S quarter appears in my lifetime.
    If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?

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