Do you find it irritating when you buy a coin from a mail order coin dealer and he.......
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........has the word "COIN" in his return address? I don't need every postal employee that handles my package to know that I collect coins. Also, advertising that there are coins in an insured package makes it more likely to be stolen. Thoughts?
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<< <i>........has the word "COIN" in his return address? I don't need every postal employee that handles my package to know that I collect coins. Also, advertising that there are coins in an insured package makes it more likely to be stolen. Thoughts? >>
It's very amateur to do so.
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I like how Rick Snow puts "Do not bend, pictures inside."
<< <i>If its an occasional package I don't think its a big deal.
I like how Rick Snow puts "Do not bend, pictures inside." >>
That might not be so great either. Now your postman thinks you are getting porn or something.
<< <i>While it's not very bright on their part, I don't find it irritating. I would be surprised if even 5 postal employees look close enough at your package to read "Coins" on the outside. Not anything to get excited about.
-Paul >>
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They certainly do look. A few weeks ago, I received a small package, a ca. 4 in x 6 in mailer whose sender's address did not contain either of the words 'coin' or 'numismatics', from a well-known dealer. The mail lady said something like: "What's in this---is it a coin? All of us back in the mailroom were taking bets".
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<< <i>"do not bend, stool sample enclosed"
Dreck?
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That's 5 too many in my book.
Why increase the risk even .001% if you don't have to? In these challenging economic times less than honest people are looking for more ways to "supplement" their income. I don't need a yahoo at the local P.O. inadvertently telling a "friend" that the guy over there collects expensive coins. It only takes 1 slip up. Are all Postal employees by definition incapable of being involved in setting up someone to steal their coins? Abbreviating the word "rare coin company" in an address as "CC" is a simple but much appreciated security gesture. And for a PO Box address an abbreviation/acronym for the name will still get it there with no difference. If a seller doesn't value their security, that's fine. But don't assume the rest of us don't value ours.
roadrunner
<< <i>"do not bend, stool sample enclosed"
Now that's a real POS.
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<< <i>"do not bend, stool sample enclosed"
Seriously, prior to 9/11 I got a small bottle of whisky from a Scottish friend in a package labelled "dangerous biological samples" - needless to say it arrived just fine.
Yes, I hate that coin or money label on a package - stupid. Heritage sends their parcels out with "Ivy Press" or something similar - makes it look like I am getting another book.
<< <i>While it's not very bright on their part, I don't find it irritating. I would be surprised if even 5 postal employees look close enough at your package to read "Coins" on the outside. Not anything to get excited about.
-Paul >>
As others have pointed out, I strongly disagree with you and think it is something to be concerned about.
In my next message, I asked them why it couldn't be changed. I also sent them a link to this very PCGS forum discussion thread. They never replied to me again.
Do they deserve negative feedback?
<< <i>An ebay coin dealer in Shrewsbury New Jersey who sells under the ebay nickname of edselegantcoins is another such culprit. The title of their ebay store is "Ed'S Elegant Coins inc." I bought a coin from them, and complained about their use of the word coin in the return address. Of course I don't want to inform everyone who sees the mailed item that I'm getting coins. We all know that numismatists are targeted by criminals. They replied to me as follows: "Thats the way our Postal shipping systems is setup and we can not change the way it's done."
In my next message, I asked them why it couldn't be changed. I also sent them a link to this very PCGS forum discussion thread. They never replied to me again.
Do they deserve negative feedback? >>
No, they don't. You might tag them on their delivery stars ( I, personally wouldn't even do this.) but if you received the purchase you wanted and are happy with the coin itself in a timely manner then the seller doesn't deserve a neg.
As for the OP, no, it doesn't irritate me, but I can see why it might someone else.
<< <i>An ebay coin dealer in Shrewsbury New Jersey who sells under the ebay nickname of edselegantcoins is another such culprit. The title of their ebay store is "Ed'S Elegant Coins inc." I bought a coin from them, and complained about their use of the word coin in the return address. Of course I don't want to inform everyone who sees the mailed item that I'm getting coins. We all know that numismatists are targeted by criminals. They replied to me as follows: "Thats the way our Postal shipping systems is setup and we can not change the way it's done."
In my next message, I asked them why it couldn't be changed. I also sent them a link to this very PCGS forum discussion thread. They never replied to me again.
Do they deserve negative feedback? >>
No, but I wouldn't buy from them again.
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<< <i>An ebay coin dealer in Shrewsbury New Jersey who sells under the ebay nickname of edselegantcoins is another such culprit. The title of their ebay store is "Ed'S Elegant Coins inc." I bought a coin from them, and complained about their use of the word coin in the return address. Of course I don't want to inform everyone who sees the mailed item that I'm getting coins. We all know that numismatists are targeted by criminals. They replied to me as follows: "Thats the way our Postal shipping systems is setup and we can not change the way it's done."
In my next message, I asked them why it couldn't be changed. I also sent them a link to this very PCGS forum discussion thread. They never replied to me again.
Do they deserve negative feedback? >>
Two options:
1. Negative feedback
2. Tell them you don't order any coins from anyone who uses "Coins" in their return address. Tell them "that's the way my coin ordering system is set up and I can not change the way it's done."
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I think if you advertise it on the parcel your asking for trouble.
<< <i>An ebay coin dealer in Shrewsbury New Jersey who sells under the ebay nickname of edselegantcoins is another such culprit. The title of their ebay store is "Ed'S Elegant Coins inc." I bought a coin from them, and complained about their use of the word coin in the return address. Of course I don't want to inform everyone who sees the mailed item that I'm getting coins. We all know that numismatists are targeted by criminals. They replied to me as follows: "Thats the way our Postal shipping systems is setup and we can not change the way it's done."
In my next message, I asked them why it couldn't be changed. I also sent them a link to this very PCGS forum discussion thread. They never replied to me again.
Do they deserve negative feedback? >>
Did you get the coin(s)? Were they honest in their dealings and representation of the coin(s)?
If so, then why would you even think of a negative?
It's their business practice and their choice. NOT YOURS.
If you don't like it, don't do business with them. Simple.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Buy your coins at coin shows, sight seen and avoid shipping.
<< <i>After 15 years of returning coins, multiple trips to the USPS, the time and expense involved, etc, I suggest the following (to avoid your pet peeve).
Buy your coins at coin shows, sight seen and avoid shipping.
What if you live in an area that doesn't have large coin shows?
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<< <i>An ebay coin dealer in Shrewsbury New Jersey who sells under the ebay nickname of edselegantcoins is another such culprit. The title of their ebay store is "Ed'S Elegant Coins inc." I bought a coin from them, and complained about their use of the word coin in the return address. Of course I don't want to inform everyone who sees the mailed item that I'm getting coins. We all know that numismatists are targeted by criminals. They replied to me as follows: "Thats the way our Postal shipping systems is setup and we can not change the way it's done."
In my next message, I asked them why it couldn't be changed. I also sent them a link to this very PCGS forum discussion thread. They never replied to me again.
Do they deserve negative feedback? >>
Two options:
1. Negative feedback
2. Tell them you don't order any coins from anyone who uses "Coins" in their return address. Tell them "that's the way my coin ordering system is set up and I can not change the way it's done." >>
I'm with Rich on this one... however, I would try option 2 first... as for the "We can not change the way it's done"... that is complete BS...
I will not even mince words over this... anyone who puts the words "Coins" "Rare" or anything that screams "VALUABLE" in the return address is an idiot...
After trying option 2, if I get no response or a flip BS response, I would either neg the seller or give a neutral... along with the following message "Nice coin...luckily arrived safe...Get the word COINS off your return address!!"
<< <i>While it's not very bright on their part, I don't find it irritating. I would be surprised if even 5 postal employees look close enough at your package to read "Coins" on the outside. Not anything to get excited about.
That's 5 too many in my book.
Why increase the risk even .001% if you don't have to? In these challenging economic times less than honest people are looking for more ways to "supplement" their income. I don't need a yahoo at the local P.O. inadvertently telling a "friend" that the guy over there collects expensive coins. It only takes 1 slip up. Are all Postal employees by definition incapable of being involved in setting up someone to steal their coins? Abbreviating the word "rare coin company" in an address as "CC" is a simple but much appreciated security gesture. And for a PO Box address an abbreviation/acronym for the name will still get it there with no difference. If a seller doesn't value their security, that's fine. But don't assume the rest of us don't value ours.
roadrunner >>
...i agree. the postal service doesn't need any help identifying your property. i'm sure though, if they're real curious,
they'll just run the package thru the x-ray.
I would think the bigger issue would be coin dealers who send coins to themselves from shows or get from customers - even returns. In a small town there is no way they don't know what the guy is receiving or sending. I don't know what they do to protect themselves but the PO knowing they sell coins doesn't appear to be a huge problem, unless someone knows otherwise.
I'd imagine insurance companies having an issue with any claim too (usually insurance companies only allow coin companies to disclose that coins are in the package when required by customs; otherwise it's a big no no).
PS. For dealers who have coin(s) or numismatic(s) in their company name, when you get mail/packages from me, it's likely I've just deleted it from your name, or abbreviated it to an initial. Makes some invoices look like I've made a mistake, but safest from a delivery standpoint.
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Seattle doesn't have any - I go to Orlando or wherever there is a large non-ANA show.
Using coins in the return in this day and age does seem stupid.
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<< <i>I subscribe to Coins magazine and it bugged the chit out of me when it showed up unwrapped. I have long since paid off my mailman so I haven't had any problems but its in the back of my mind. >>
Odds are your magazine was picked up on a slow day at a small local post office and someone needed something to read. Since noone likes reading the regulations on how to do their job correctly your magazine probably was a quick fix.
<< <i>........has the word "COIN" in his return address? I don't need every postal employee that handles my package to know that I collect coins. Also, advertising that there are coins in an insured package makes it more likely to be stolen. Thoughts? >>
Perry, I hope you'll forgive me for asking a related, but different question of members reading this thread. I'm also interested in your opinion. I'm obviously going to be shipping coins from my new company, how would you (and others) feel about the package and/or envelopes arriving from "GreatCollections" (and my PO box etc.)? I guess "Is GreatCollections generic enough" is the question I'm asking.
- Ian
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<< <i>........has the word "COIN" in his return address? I don't need every postal employee that handles my package to know that I collect coins. Also, advertising that there are coins in an insured package makes it more likely to be stolen. Thoughts? >>
Perry, I hope you'll forgive me for asking a related, but different question of members reading this thread. I'm also interested in your opinion. I'm obviously going to be shipping coins from my new company, how would you (and others) feel about the package and/or envelopes arriving from "GreatCollections" (and my PO box etc.)? I guess "Is GreatCollections generic enough" is the question I'm asking.
- Ian >>
What is not appropriate about just using your given name, Ian? That is certainly more innocuous than "Great Collections" !!
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<< <i>........has the word "COIN" in his return address? I don't need every postal employee that handles my package to know that I collect coins. Also, advertising that there are coins in an insured package makes it more likely to be stolen. Thoughts? >>
Perry, I hope you'll forgive me for asking a related, but different question of members reading this thread. I'm also interested in your opinion. I'm obviously going to be shipping coins from my new company, how would you (and others) feel about the package and/or envelopes arriving from "GreatCollections" (and my PO box etc.)? I guess "Is GreatCollections generic enough" is the question I'm asking.
- Ian >>
"GreatCollections" is probably all right since it's general enough that most people will assume it's Beanie Babies or something similar.
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<< <i>"Is GreatCollections generic enough" is the question I'm asking. >>
You could use "GC, LLC" for address labels and include your full business name on any enclosed material.
- Ian
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<< <i> I don't need every postal employee that handles my package >>
.... Lets keep this PG.
As for worrying about the Postal Worker who barely gets your package to the right bin, let alone cares what else they need to do, I wouldn't sweat that. I'd worry more about the people you buy and sell to knowing your physical address. If you have a PO Box then I'd not sweat any of it.
<< <i>If its an occasional package I don't think its a big deal.
I like how Rick Snow puts "Do not bend, pictures inside." >>
I have been doing that for years and never had a problem.
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<< <i>While it's not very bright on their part, I don't find it irritating. I would be surprised if even 5 postal employees look close enough at your package to read "Coins" on the outside. Not anything to get excited about.
-Paul >>
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They certainly do look. A few weeks ago, I received a small package, a ca. 4 in x 6 in mailer whose sender's address did not contain either of the words 'coin' or 'numismatics', from a well-known dealer. The mail lady said something like: "What's in this---is it a coin? All of us back in the mailroom were taking bets". >>
I'm pretty sure that all of the "window workers" at my P O know that I send and receive coins. When 4 people have seen the package, the 5th wouldn't DARE steal it. There is safety in numbers. In fact most of the ones here will go out of their way and do things they aren't even supposed to do if I run into problems.