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Ever waited 15 years for a certain coin to appear...

tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,233 ✭✭✭✭✭
...and then when it does instead of being exciting, it's so dark you don't even want to touch it? image
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  • earlyAurumearlyAurum Posts: 750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Never waited 15 years but I expect that it could take 15 years or more until another appears of my single rarest coin. When I bought this coin, I knew it would be the case and therefore I made some concessions. It's not dark but it has a small gouge on the reverse.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Nope.

    For what I collect, I usually only have to wait 15 minutes or so for one to show up! image
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,563 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, not nearly that long...but I understand the feeling.

    I used to think rarity trumped pretty much everything else and I was willing to accept a problem coin that was a great rarity just to have it in my collection and fill the hole.

    I no longer think that way.

    Rarity is an important and exciting attribute...but rarity alone isn't enough. I have to really like the coin too. And not just convince myself that I like it. This is especially true for the money it usually takes to obtain some of these rarities.
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  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    Just buy it and dip the hell out of it. image
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>TDN and others, Would this be considered too dark? >>

    No, that's very pretty, Al. Wrong holder but pretty.
    Lance.



  • << <i>...and then when it does instead of being exciting, it's so dark you don't even want to touch it? image >>



    Hmmmm. You really know how to tease us...image

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Had you seen it previously and its appearance changed over time?
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>it's so dark you don't even want to touch it? >>



    I don't follow. Would you please explain?
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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    I don't mind dark coins at all although my tastes are budget constrained so Dark tends to be the best details, most original I can swing often. The coins I have a problem with are the ones that used to be so dark that the connoisseurs wouldn't touch so they were dipped and dipped so now the devices are surrounded by dark halos and the coins are in over graded MA TPG holders. My 1876cc DDR in my sig line is a good exsample of this
  • MowgliMowgli Posts: 1,219


    << <i>...and then when it does instead of being exciting, it's so dark you don't even want to touch it? image >>



    Sounds like my first sexual encounter.
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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ever waited 15 years for a certain coin to appear......and then when it does instead of being exciting, it's so dark you don't even want to touch it? >>



    Not exactly the same situation, but I felt that way about some of the coins in the Ford sales.

    There was a piece of Mass silver in particular with a mile long pedigree which had been at the top of my cc for the issue and which had historically been described as a gem, but when I finally saw it in hand it was not original and not nice.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image


    TDN and others, Would this be considered too dark? >>


    Only the rims, due to the shadow from the Nasty Grading Company holder. image
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you get this reholdered because the (evil) old holder showed a shadow on the coin when trying to take a pic of it?
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    never happened to me

    but you are lucky you couldn't find it
    otherwise you might own
    a dark coin you are afraid to touch
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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Me think me has a link? >>



    Thats one ugly 66 image
    Maybe it should be put back in the ground where it was stored for the last 15yrs image
  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ya, that coin definitely looks dark...

    Donato

    Edited to add: Realone your coin does not look too dark for my taste. I actually like it...image
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  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    Well I (dumbly) passed on an 1873-cc seated dollar Laura told me to buy a couple years ago, and I'm hoping I don't have to wait 12 more for it to pop back up!
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    And Crypto, you are probably right. It's a top pop at either service according to TDN's condition census, followed by 1 PCGS and 3 NGC in MS-65...
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


    << <i>And Crypto, you are probably right. It's a top pop at either service according to TDN's condition census, followed by 1 PCGS and 3 NGC in MS-65... >>



    it is all about the strike of the 77p's and that one has really full stars
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Not as dark as this lower grade one...1880 PF64 ANACS Old Holder
  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    image

    Is this coin really much darker than the photo?
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  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>And Crypto, you are probably right. It's a top pop at either service according to TDN's condition census, followed by 1 PCGS and 3 NGC in MS-65... >>



    it is all about the strike of the 77p's and that one has really full stars >>




    Seriously doubt that's the venue TDN buys from...

    The top two stars and the head appear weak. I do not like the streaky obv toning but then again, in hand it may look a lot better. Probably not, but who knows image
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    Hoping that TDN replies to see if I was right on the coin
  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭


    << <i>image


    TDN and others, Would this be considered too dark? >>

    Too dark? No way! I like 'um!image
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,233 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hoping that TDN replies to see if I was right on the coin >>



    Yahhhh - that coin is so dark that I'd be embarrassed to have it in my collection even tho I've wondered where it is for 15 years. The strike is nice but not full, but frankly strike means very little to me compared to eye appeal and luster. This coin reminds me of a charcoal black PCGS MS65 1874 trade dollar that I was once offered. image

    Just reinforces the need for reliably stable toning on major purchases. image
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>...and then when it does instead of being exciting, it's so dark you don't even want to touch it? image >>


    Wait a little longer and it may be light again.
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  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424


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    Seriously doubt that's the venue TDN buys from...
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    He has mentioned multiple coins he has purchased from ebay, mostly raw or chopped trade dollars that I can recall. Why wouldn't he purchase from there if something interests him?
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too bad as that coin in that holder would probably still fetch $60K if it were a little easier on the eyes.
  • I hope the NGC fatty didnt do that. image
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


    << <i>I hope the NGC fatty didnt do that. image >>



    I don't think so, Trades often have that look to include half of mine that have been net graded for being too dark by PCGS, I even have a small note from DH admitting as much for my 78cc and My 75 cc type 1 rev(all in sig line) is really UNC/AU58 details but has been graded AU50 Chop. It's a shame as for the higer grades the luster really booms through the dark toning giving a great look.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Al - I can't believe you changed holders and still have it in the WRONG holder!!!!!!
  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    Seriously doubt that's the venue TDN buys from...
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    He has mentioned multiple coins he has purchased from ebay, mostly raw or chopped trade dollars that I can recall. Why wouldn't he purchase from there if something interests him? >>



    I stand correctedimage
  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>
    Seriously doubt that's the venue TDN buys from...
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    He has mentioned multiple coins he has purchased from ebay, mostly raw or chopped trade dollars that I can recall. Why wouldn't he purchase from there if something interests him? >>



    I stand correctedimage >>



    It's an easy mistake to make, but you just gotta think to yourself, who in their right mind would want to buy a chopped Trade dollar, and that's why you have to go to ebay...

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    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    I think the '77 Trade Dollar in the eBay auction is nice. I'd ALWAYS rather have too dark than too light. What look like finger prints in the toning I don't particularly care for, but the overall color of the coin is wonderful.
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  • bluelobsterbluelobster Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭
    I usually like dark coins, but I need some color and luster to peak through. This coin is not only dark but appears lifeless, maybe there is booming luster underneath, but it sure doesn't look like it.
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,233 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I usually like dark coins, but I need some color and luster to peak through. This coin is not only dark but appears lifeless, maybe there is booming luster underneath, but it sure doesn't look like it. >>



    I had a friend on these boards who I used to tease by calling him "charcoal boy" because his collection was all dark and lifeless. When he finally listened and made the move to a different look, he didn't do very well upon selling his coins. But his new collection had life to it.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dark but with nice luster showing through. image



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  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    Here is one of my shunned dreck coins,

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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    I love that Territorial Mormon gold piece. Fantastic!
  • Is that a fingerprint on the rev.?
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Mormon piece and this die trial were owned by some guy named Clifford - never met the guy. image

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