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$100 Finder's Fee for PSA 2 '51 Mantle

shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,629 ✭✭✭✭
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My new quest is to land a nice PSA 1, 2 or 3 '51 Bowman Mantle RC. I've searched all over, including past auctions, and found one I would absolutely love to own. This is worse than a needle in a haystack scenario, but I had to give it a shot. I will give $100 to anyone who can put me in touch with the owner of the card below, provided I am able to agree to a purchase price. Doubt that would be a problem because my offer would be strong.

The only details I have on the card are that it sold on 9/20/07 on eBay to Red Zone. I contacted them, but they have no info. In checking VCP, they did not sell the card on eBay, either in the PSA 2 holder or a different PSA holder, so it may have sold privately. It's also not registered in the PSA registry, which sucks because that would have been a good avenue to pursue. It's very possible that the card was cracked out and no longer resides in this holder. Like I said, this is a long shot and a half, but what the heck.

The only way I know how to show images on here is from my regsitry, so I dumped it in my showcase set solely for this thread. Here's the image:

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Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised and one of you will contact me. image
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  • akuracy503akuracy503 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭
    What a wonderful 2 example. Good Luck in your search I hope you find it!

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  • edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭
    Funny, I've been looking at the 4.5 Levi has on ebay now. His price is above mine, but
    someday I'm going to get one, probably in a five.
  • akuracy503akuracy503 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭
    You just missed a pretty PSA 4 1951 Bowman Mantle from prewardcardcollector $3150 final bid

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  • edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭
    The back of that 4 was real bad IMO.
  • akuracy503akuracy503 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭
    Yes very tough to avoid that waxed back, throw in the registration issues with the early Bowman's and then the centering and color vividness it's a challenge!

    That PSA 2 sure looks nice

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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,629 ✭✭✭✭
    Bump.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,629 ✭✭✭✭
    Sunday bump.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,629 ✭✭✭✭
    Tuesday bump.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • toc1000toc1000 Posts: 95
    Personally I don't understand the obsession with this withered copy of a Mantle.

    The thick bruising of the upper-left corner - does that not deter you?

    I'm not sayin' it's a bad PSA 2; only that objectively: It ain't all that.
  • toc1000toc1000 Posts: 95
    P.S. - If you're too cheap/poor to buy a decent grade Mantle (think PSA 6 at least), why not consider a $20 reprint, graded PSA 10?

    Or if it's the feel of Americana, buy a PSA 9 1951 common.

    Or a PSA 8 1968 Mantle.

    (I know the above is a bad impression of dearly-departed Dr. Lou... but why in the name a PSA 2 obsession???)

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Personally I don't understand the obsession with this withered copy of a Mantle.

    The thick bruising of the upper-left corner - does that not deter you?

    I'm not sayin' it's a bad PSA 2; only that objectively: It ain't all that. >>



    For centering nuts like myself, that 2 looks great. I can ignore most of the other problems...

    Best of luck trying to locate the card...Donato
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  • akuracy503akuracy503 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>P.S. - If you're too cheap/poor to buy a decent grade Mantle (think PSA 6 at least), why not consider a $20 reprint, graded PSA 10?

    Or if it's the feel of Americana, buy a PSA 9 1951 common.

    Or a PSA 8 1968 Mantle.

    (I know the above is a bad impression of dearly-departed Dr. Lou... but why in the name a PSA 2 obsession???) >>



    TOC - I think you're missing the point of collectors who actually enjoy finding nice eye appeal in low grades.
    I think that example of the '51 Mantle in 2 is a rare find in it's class, as you already know these are notriously hard to find well centered and that in itself makes it a desired card.

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  • akuracy503akuracy503 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭
    I'd take that 2 over this if I didn't want to spend a signficant amount of cash.
    Very similar eye appeal half the price.
    image

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  • 72skywalker72skywalker Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭


    << <i>P.S. - If you're too cheap/poor to buy a decent grade Mantle (think PSA 6 at least), why not consider a $20 reprint, graded PSA 10?

    Or if it's the feel of Americana, buy a PSA 9 1951 common.

    Or a PSA 8 1968 Mantle.

    (I know the above is a bad impression of dearly-departed Dr. Lou... but why in the name a PSA 2 obsession???) >>




    It is not a bad impression of Dr Lou, it is a perfect impression of Dr Lou. He was an idiot as well and his responses were pretty dumb most of the time, too.

    - I don't think that many people have that much disposable income to throw at a PSA 6 51-Bowman Mantle. The PSA 2 is a nice looking card and it is somewhat affordable if you save up for it.

    - The feel of Americana is Mickey Mantle. I don't think there is another player ever that has more of an Americana feel than the Mick. (argubally) Why would he buy a common of a player he does not know when he could work on getting a Mantle Rookie Card.

    - A PSA 8 1968 Mantle is nice but it is not his rookie.

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>(I know the above is a bad impression of dearly-departed Dr. Lou... but why in the name a PSA 2 obsession???) >>



    ...for the same reason why I was looking for a 1957 Brooks Robinson RC in PSA 3 or less. I just wanted a card with decent eye appeal for a price I could afford. A decent spot-filler for that particular card.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>P.S. - If you're too cheap/poor to buy a decent grade Mantle (think PSA 6 at least), why not consider a $20 reprint, graded PSA 10?

    Or if it's the feel of Americana, buy a PSA 9 1951 common.

    Or a PSA 8 1968 Mantle.

    (I know the above is a bad impression of dearly-departed Dr. Lou... but why in the name a PSA 2 obsession???) >>



    It's called value combined with eye appeal. Andy has built a nice collection, many in high grade. To question why, what and how another collects and what they're willing to spend is insulting. I know for a fact that the OP has paid in excess of the market value to get premium centering for the grade.

    I don't know what you collect toc1000, but you're erroneous assumptions and snide accusations are turn offs.

    Just another to add to the list of recent posters that find fault with what others find completely logical.
  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    I think your quest may be a hopeless one--as it will probably turn out that the card was long ago busted out of the holder and resubmitted in hopes of a PSA 3, or maybe a BVG 4-6--or YIKES a GEM 10 from one of the basement grading services.image
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  • toc1000toc1000 Posts: 95


    << <i>It's called value combined with eye appeal. Just another to add to the list of recent posters that find fault with what others find completely logical. >>



    That begs the question - i.e., it's circular reasoning. OP won't get a bargain by revealing his high shadow price (a public announcement does that), and offer $100 atop that price.

    I'd understand if he were pursuing a rare or high-end card, but a discolored PSA 2???
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It's called value combined with eye appeal. Just another to add to the list of recent posters that find fault with what others find completely logical. >>



    That begs the question - i.e., it's circular reasoning. OP won't get a bargain by revealing his high shadow price (a public announcement does that), and offer $100 atop that price.

    I'd understand if he were pursuing a rare or high-end card, but a discolored PSA 2??? >>



    The card, although it has issues, presents quite nicely. Far better than some PSA 4's and 5's that would cost far more. To that end, there is value to the buyer who is more concerned with presentation than what the grade says or what you suggest he should pay. And there is a difference between "value" and "bargain." The OP was not looking for a bargain, but what he perceived as VALUE.

    I will, in an attempt to have a card that presents as nicely as possible, pay a strong price on a lower grade than I would normally have in my collection. A prime example would be paying a stupid price for a dead centered PSA 7 Lance Alworth over a cheaper price on a typically OC PSA 8 of the same card. Likewise, I have a PSA 5 1948 Leaf Bednarik that would grade PSA 9 if it were centered. The question begs, do I replace it with a centered copy that suffers from soft corners and wear or accept all of the other incredible attributes of the card. To some, corners and crispness are more important. To most, centering is the key.
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