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Something doesn't look quite right with this Indian cent

seanqseanq Posts: 8,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
The date looks all wrong, the 8 is larger than the rest of the numbers and the 4 is too wide. Could this be a contemporary counterfeit, or a modern Chinese version? Auction link It sure seems like an odd coin to counterfeit, the seller is only asking about $40 for it, but then maybe it's easier to pass off a bunch of $40 retail coins than one $400 one.

Seller's picture:

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  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    Looks fake to me. What's going on with the rim on the obverse at 6? Also, is that plating peeling off by United?



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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If anything, I think the 8 looks more legit than any other digit. The rest look too thin and awkward.
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks fine to me. Sometimes pictures distort things.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chinese fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭
    This coin has all sorts of markers that say STAY AWAY!

    The top serif of the one is too short & the numeral is too thin.
    The 8 is not shaped like the other varieties listed by Snow.
    The 9 is too fat & squat.
    The 4 has too short a serif at the bottom.
    The left rim is missing portions.
    The hair curls above the date, right of the ribbon are open instead
    of closed.

    I am not an expert & I'm sure Rick will chime in, but to me,,,

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nothng about that coin makes sense.

    The date style is definitely all wrong.

    Why would a counterfeiter make one with a damaged rim (8:00 obverse) ?

    Someone's practice piece for altering dates ? Possibly.

    But the mushyness of the letters, especially "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA", make me think it is a struck counterfeit,
    possibly an older one due to the edge gouge and somewhat-realistic patina.
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That date looks way weird...
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    what a shame
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,882 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The rim is all wrong.

    I vote for modern Chinese counterfeit (although the portrait is a tad better than normally seen).

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's modern.
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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like the Capt. said, Chinese. These cost about 10c. (just a guess - but they are CHEAP!) each in bulk from China. Any date you want. They are not deceptive to any Indian Cent collector in hand, but if the image is blurry or it is offered at $40 to the unknowing with a $200 price tag on the flip, then the greed factor will blind the buyer. Asking $40 is a pretty big margin when you consider the cost.

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