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My experience with Secure Plus...

tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
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... in an area that I specialize in is limited to just one coin. It got the plus [65+]. I didn't think it was anything special and wouldn't have called it PQ. Probably too small of a sample size to draw any conclusions at this point. Shrug.
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  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Probably too small of a sample size to draw any conclusions at this point. >>



    Ya think...shrug
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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Getting a Plus would whip me up into a frothy frenzy. image
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  • RedHerringRedHerring Posts: 2,077 ✭

    I almost pulled the trigger on this one last night:

    65+ Saint

    What do you think?
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    RedHerring, An MS66 sold for $150 more than the 65+. It's a nice coin, but looks overpriced.

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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>... in an area that I specialize in is limited to just one coin. It got the plus [65+]. I didn't think it was anything special and wouldn't have called it PQ. Probably too small of a sample size to draw any conclusions at this point. Shrug. >>



    Then why did you submit it?
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just got a SecurePlus coin from CRO yesterday: 1907 Barber dime MS66+ with gorgeous envelope toning . I have lots of CAC'd coins, and am pretty sure that this dime would have received a green bean even without the toning. I am not convinced that it would have received the PCGS + without the toning, however.
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,238 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>... in an area that I specialize in is limited to just one coin. It got the plus [65+]. I didn't think it was anything special and wouldn't have called it PQ. Probably too small of a sample size to draw any conclusions at this point. Shrug. >>



    Then why did you submit it? >>



    I didn't. I know the coin and considered purchasing it, but I didn't really like it all that much. I didn't say it was my coin - I just said I had experience with it.
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Are we starting to play semantics and determining if there is there?image
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  • RotatedRainbowsRotatedRainbows Posts: 2,085 ✭✭
    This is the problem I see with this, just like NGC * a lot of coins that do not deserve the + will get it and then the collector will get hosed by dealers that will use the designation to get way more for the coin then it is worth. That is why CAC was created because of all the overgraded coins and now it starts all over again coins not in the 10-15% are going to get the + when they do not deserve it. As time goes on things like this tend to only get worse as we seen with slabbing itself, standards just seem to loosen over time as more and more coins are graded/regraded. I hope I am wrong but history says otherwise.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So, you don't see eye to eye with Laura on S+?
    You seem to be quite non-chalant with it while she was (is?) all up in arms.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After seeing your collection, the usual (+) coin probably DOES look average to you. image
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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>... in an area that I specialize in is limited to just one coin. It got the plus [65+]. I didn't think it was anything special and wouldn't have called it PQ. Probably too small of a sample size to draw any conclusions at this point. Shrug. >>



    Then why did you submit it? >>



    I didn't. I know the coin and considered purchasing it, but I didn't really like it all that much. I didn't say it was my coin - I just said I had experience with it. >>




    I am with Marty, I thought you owned every 65+ coin in the area you specialize inimage-----------BigE
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After seeing your experience in the coins you specialize in, I am not surprised that +'s mean little to you.
    Most of the coins that I saw in your sets were +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Your collections are what make us peon's droooooool for.

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  • GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I almost pulled the trigger on this one last night:

    65+ Saint

    What do you think? >>



    I bet if you called up Barry directly he would sell it to you at the price he would net if he doesn't have to pay eBay and Paypal rips.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,069 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yeah, TDN, I think you've lost touch with us common folk

    i bet that the coin you're referring to is a knockout

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  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    If I have a dog of a 65, should I submit it looking for a 64+?
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Do you have an image of what you submitted?
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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>... in an area that I specialize in is limited to just one coin. It got the plus [65+]. I didn't think it was anything special and wouldn't have called it PQ. Probably too small of a sample size to draw any conclusions at this point. Shrug. >>



    One coin is probably too small a sample size? Um, yes, I would tend to agree with that.
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Every data point matters.
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