psa prescreening?

buymovieposters

suppose i have 100 pack fresh of the same card and i am looking only for psa 10's. 9's are useless because the cards are from the 80's. will psa only charge you for the 10's and send the rest back or is there something like this they offer?

al032184

I wish..
only pay for the grades you like.

MULLINS5

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only pay for the grades you like. >>



May special?

WinPitcher

Ummmmmm Call customer service.

What they may do is charge you in full for the 10's and a lower fee for the others.

But they will not just charge for those that are 10's, they did spend time on all the cards

surely you can agree with that and are entitled to be paid.



Steve

italianstallionyankees

Sgc offers this type of service along with Bgs it depends on the number amount of cards submitted though...

It is a great idea for Psa to start doing Imo


Ryan

WinPitcher

Ryan

SGC will look at, say, 1000 cards and only charge for the ones that actually grade?

I find that hard to believe.


Steve

storm888

The deal you are looking for would likely take a lot
more than 100 cards.

Give them a call and ask what the minimum number
of cards would be. You might be able to get several
folks to piggyback, in order to reach the minimum.

There would still be some charge for the ungraded
cards.

Call 'em and post the response.

SidePocket

PSA screening isn't really necessary til you're 50.

italianstallionyankees

Steve,

I am not saying that they will just charge for the cards that grade 10's... Sgc offers a special called a pre-screen service with cards that do not meet the cut it is a standard $2 charge per card


Ryan

WinPitcher

Gotcha.


Steve

matthewbschultz83

<< <i>PSA screening isn't really necessary til you're 50. >>



Well played. This made me giggle.

divecchia

<< <i>PSA screening isn't really necessary til you're 50. >>





Donato

thenavarro

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<< <i>PSA screening isn't really necessary til you're 50. >>



Well played. This made me giggle. >>



Matt,

Did you enjoy the game yesterday? Great comeback. I figured you would be there. It's the first opening day I missed since early 90's, but I caught every pitch on TV.

Mike

UlyssesExtravaganza

I was going to ask about this topic myself and I think a service like this does exist for certain customers and might be available when you are having a high volume of cards you are submitting. My belief that this happens comes from watching the POP report on 1980 Topps baseball pretty neurotically and noticing any fluctuations here and there (a little embarrassing to admit). But what I came to see was that on certain low POP cards, there were no misses in recent times. It was 10s or nothing. You could have 29 submissions and 2 10s and then if it would increase by one submission and one 10. And again. And again. Across the board. So very few submissions hitting the POP report that weren't 10s. So a bulk submitter either had a fantastic and similar eye to a PSA grader or another arrangement similar to what is being discussed was my thought.

bbuckner22

I am interested in hearing what PSA says about this topic. If someone does contact them and have some info please share.

storm888

It occurred to me that by increasing the availability of
the contemplated service level, the market-value of
the 10s would likely decline pretty rapidly.

The largest submitters currently using the service level
would be harmed, if the service was offered universally.
And, obviously, the service would be worth less money
to PSA.

billwaltonsbeard

<< <i>The largest submitters currently using the service level
would be harmed, if the service was offered universally. >>



Well, personally, I would hate taking money out of their hands!!

Mickey71

Storm888,
While I totally agree with you and what would happen to the card market on 10's ..... it should have nothing to do with PSA and the grading of cards. In my opinion PSA should just strictly grade cards and not concern themselves with the values.
It creates a conflict of interest. It's like when the review thing started- Joe was talking about a Koufax rookie and what a .5 would do to the value. They should just give an unbiased professional opinion of the card. PSA should also not be looking at POPS when grading cards. What does the number of 10's have to do with giving an unbiased opinion of a cards' grade?

When it is all said and done I am a supporter of PSA; but I wish the there was more transparency in the grading process.

Mickey71

italianstallionyankees

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<< <i>The largest submitters currently using the service level
would be harmed, if the service was offered universally. >>



>>

Well, personally, I would hate taking money out of their hands!! >>



I think the service level offered to the average Joe submitter would be beneficial on Psa's part because they are the ones receiving the money not the major submitter's. I do believe on some modern era cards Psa 10's prices will drop in re-sale value but for the collector it would actually benefit him/her! Imho

Ryan

MeteoriteGuy

SGC offered it to me on switching my Saberhagen collection over. I think it $2 a card for the ones that did not make my min. grade. = I imagine BGS and PSA is just a call away from doing such. There is likely a min. card submission, possibly over a 100 to the OP.

I don't see it a problem. For the most part they are still paying for the grading, just not the slabbing.

BugOnTheRug

<< <i>It occurred to me that by increasing the availability of
the contemplated service level, the market-value of
the 10s would likely decline pretty rapidly.

The largest submitters currently using the service level
would be harmed, if the service was offered universally.
And, obviously, the service would be worth less money
to PSA.
>>



While true, does PSA care or have in place a way to monitor the secondary market? If so, wouldn't that be a conflict of interest?

storm888

"...I think the service level offered to the average Joe submitter would be beneficial on Psa's part because they are the ones receiving the money not the major submitter's. I do believe on some modern era cards Psa 10's prices will drop in re-sale value but for the collector it would actually benefit him/her!..."

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If the largest submitters stopped sending cards in under the min-grade
scheme, PSA revenues would likely tank.

Currently, the large submitters de facto "subsidize" the low fees paid
by retail submitters. Absent the big guys, retail grading fees would soar.

....................

Speculation:

IF a large submitter sends in 5,000 cards - requesting 10s - he may still
have to pay between a $1 and $X for the cards that don't make the cut.

Based on exhibited pre-grading skills of many retail submitters, I suspect
that kind of pricing scheme might bankrupt such submitters before they
got enough 10s to earn their fees back.

.........................

The notion that "low card prices" always necessarily benefit collectors is
prolly faulty. Most folks want to collect items that "are valuable and might
become more valuable as time passes."

Folks who want a pile of worthless - but pretty - cardboard encased in slabs
are in the minority.

"Collectors" can deny it all they want to, but in the back of their minds are
the concepts of "storehouse of value and future appreciation."

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bking

<< <i>"...I think the service level offered to the average Joe submitter would be beneficial on Psa's part because they are the ones receiving the money not the major submitter's. I do believe on some modern era cards Psa 10's prices will drop in re-sale value but for the collector it would actually benefit him/her!..."

/////////////////////////////////////////

If the largest submitters stopped sending cards in under the min-grade
scheme, PSA revenues would likely tank.

Currently, the large submitters de facto "subsidize" the low fees paid
by retail submitters. Absent the big guys, retail grading fees would soar.

....................

Speculation:

IF a large submitter sends in 5,000 cards - requesting 10s - he may still
have to pay between a $1 and $X for the cards that don't make the cut.

Based on exhibited pre-grading skills of many retail submitters, I suspect
that kind of pricing scheme might bankrupt such submitters before they
got enough 10s to earn their fees back.

.........................

The notion that "low card prices" always necessarily benefit collectors is
prolly faulty. Most folks want to collect items that "are valuable and might
become more valuable as time passes."

Folks who want a pile of worthless - but pretty - cardboard encased in slabs
are in the minority.

"Collectors" can deny it all they want to, but in the back of their minds are
the concepts of "storehouse of value and future appreciation."

.................................... >>



Stop making sense please....

UlyssesExtravaganza

BGS offers the Raw Card Review at major shows. Basically you pay a reduced fee for them to tell you what it would get and it stays unslabbed in your original semi-regid with a tamperproof sticker over top indicating the grade. I liked it because if you didn't get the grade you wanted, it wasn't worth slabbing it. And if you got a great grade, you paid extra for the original review but you kind of felt okay paying extra if you knew a good grade was coming to you. And you save on all the duds you didn't get the full grading service on. The problem with that is that the POP report becomes a little questionable because it doesn't count as a submission if you don't slab it. And you have incidents where someone might be sitting on a stack of BGS 10 Marino rookies (which did happen) and the POP report gets assaulted in a short period of time. I'm pretty sure PSA is doing something like this but not marketing it as a regular service. But they are a business. If the right customer comes up to them and has 2,000 cards that they think have a shot at a 10 and the 9s are worth less than the grading fee, I'm sure PSA will come up with a creative agreement to help them out.

CNote

<< <i>"...I think the service level offered to the average Joe submitter would be beneficial on Psa's part because they are the ones receiving the money not the major submitter's. I do believe on some modern era cards Psa 10's prices will drop in re-sale value but for the collector it would actually benefit him/her!..."

/////////////////////////////////////////

If the largest submitters stopped sending cards in under the min-grade
scheme, PSA revenues would likely tank.

Currently, the large submitters de facto "subsidize" the low fees paid
by retail submitters. Absent the big guys, retail grading fees would soar.

....................

Speculation:

IF a large submitter sends in 5,000 cards - requesting 10s - he may still
have to pay between a $1 and $X for the cards that don't make the cut.

Based on exhibited pre-grading skills of many retail submitters, I suspect
that kind of pricing scheme might bankrupt such submitters before they
got enough 10s to earn their fees back.

.........................

The notion that "low card prices" always necessarily benefit collectors is
prolly faulty. Most folks want to collect items that "are valuable and might
become more valuable as time passes."

Folks who want a pile of worthless - but pretty - cardboard encased in slabs
are in the minority.

"Collectors" can deny it all they want to, but in the back of their minds are
the concepts of "storehouse of value and future appreciation."

.................................... >>



When certain submitters have formers graders working for them (which is fact) they make sure they sending nothing BUT 9s and 10s, so they don't do this pre-screening thing with PSA some might think. They have an accurate pre screen at their shop.

storm888

"...When certain submitters have formers graders working for them (which is fact) they make sure they sending nothing BUT 9s and 10s, so they don't do this pre-screening thing with PSA some might think. They have an accurate pre screen at their shop...."

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Picking 9s AND 10s is a substantially different "skill"
than picking ONLY 10s.