Number of Ebay Auctions
TJMAC
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I have some money to spend and it is amazing how few graded auctions there are now on Ebay. I mean there are only 25-75 auctions for pretty much each year of football from 1959-1972. That is including all PSA grades. Definitely a tough market to deal in if you are a buyer.
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I have the e-bay bucks, but have a hard time finding anything to buy
Mark
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NFL HOF RC SET
Number of 1960-1969 PSA graded football listings: 6,735.
Number of 1960-1969 PSA graded football auctions: 341.
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I personally have had my cards won for $30-$50 by fellow dealers only to have them put the same card in their store for $200+ BIN.....it gets old fast.....
<< <i>I very rarely list my graded cards for auction anymore. I know what the market is for them and am willing to wait for a collector and not a dealer to come along. >>
Bingo! Definitely agree with you, and that's without trying to get an arm, a leg and a kidney for the item I'm selling.
<< <i>Bingo....just give me a fair market price......even when I have went away from auctions, I still get lowballers trying to bring down the BIN price, after I am already the lowest on Ebay.... >>
I usually don't go lower unless they purchase more than one graded card from me, then and only then and I willing to knock maybe 5% off the total price.
go to the crapper so quickly. I'm also amazed that a viable competitor to eBay hasn't hit the
market. I know there's Cragslist, but I'm talking about a true, online auction competitor for
eBay. I, too, miss the old days of eBay.
the other 50% on the economy.
and the other 50% not enough new blood.
and the other 51% on ebay's new policy of hiding the bidders identity allowing shill bidding to run wild.
ok so that's 201% but it's close.
Donato
Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set
Successful transactions: Shrub68 (Jim), MWallace (Mike)
There is not really much incentive for sellers to
give commodity items away via EBAY auctions.
BINs with BO are the future for collectibles on EBAY.
The chances that another venue will succeed with
an auction scheme are about ZERO.
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Listing Counts
April 5, 2010 3:06 am
eBay ........... 101,581,719 ........... -201475
eCrater ............ 3,184,950 ..... +4436
Bonanzle ......... 2,904,456 .......... +951
<< <i>I have some money to spend and it is amazing how few graded auctions there are now on Ebay. I mean there are only 25-75 auctions for pretty much each year of football from 1959-1972. That is including all PSA grades. Definitely a tough market to deal in if you are a buyer. >>
I used to look forward to this time of the year when the big dealers used to list their quality freshly graded PSA 9 baseball cards from the 1960's right before baseball season - Yes, I used to lose most of the bids anyway, but is was still fun trying to get them. Sure hasn't been much this year and it ticks me off because I planned to be a bit more aggressive on the bidding...but ya can't bid if there's nothing there to bid on.
Fortunately, I am usually pretty patient and will wait until something I am interested in pops up. It must be tough for collectors who have very narrow interests to get their collecting fix.
I listed a very rare 1989 Topps Heads Up Don Mattingly for 30 days. I had a Buy It Now of $99.95 or Best Offer. I had exactly one offer in 30 days. It was a $75 offer. I almost took it, but since it was only a few days into the listing, I thought I would wait it out. If someone really wanted it, they could have had it for about $65. After the 30 days ended, I listed it as an auction. It brought $76. It had 8 watchers.
Now, why in the world didn't some of those same people send me an offer? As I stated earlier, as the Buy It Now listing was ending, I would have probably taken $65 for it. Someone please tell me why I only had one offer, yet I had a bunch of people bidding. I think it has something to do with the mentality of the buyer. Sellers put Buy It Now's way too high. I almost always get rejected, even though I offer fair prices (yes, I know I'm speaking out of both sides of my mouth because I turned down a fair offer). I've just always had pretty good luck with auctions. That's why I will continue to use them.
Shane
the secret is out, EVERYONE knows what can be done with eBay now......i'm trying to remember the feeling i used to get when i sold a 2-cent common in a PSA 10 holder for hundreds of dollars, oh yeah, there it is......or the numerous times i harvested a collection and turned it over, so............i could buy TEN more collections!! anybody else ever have that experience?? thought so
come on guys, all this grousing about eBay auctions, it's kinda sad really......everybody is a dealer now, no matter who your buyer is, once they buy from you, they're a dealer too......when i see a complaint about how someone else made money off of your stuff, and your past history might predicate that you made money off of other people's stuff, well......that's how we all got here.
Bottom line though, in regards to the original post - until the buyers come out and support the auctions, I doubt you will see an increase in auctions. Like Storm said, there is absolutely NO INCENTIVE whatsoever to run a card for a true auction anymore. I doubt very seriously you will make a premium on anything - in reality, you will most likely lose money, or sell an item for less that what a legitimate card shop (ie, All Star Cards), pays for the item...... and then after you pay fees (which, in case anyone doesn't know, increased to 9% for Ebay alone)......you would be better off selling it to a card shop with a BUY LIST and not paying the fees.
when i think of an auction, i imagine a group of people crowded into a small place, smoking cigars and fidgeting about, wondering if they will be the lucky recipient of a very difficult-to-acquire item, like a custom-made automobile or a movie star's personal memoirs or, WOWSVILLE! a rare baseball card.....these are things which might be found attractive, because they are worth fighting for and who knows when or if another one will come around?
meanwhile, back at the ranch, 500 people all list the same 1978 Topps Baseball PSA 9 common and the cigar smell disappears.....it's not an auction, hardly anyone shows up, so the concept is lost.
eBay has become a convenience store.
<< <i>I very rarely list my graded cards for auction anymore. I know what the market is for them and am willing to wait for a collector and not a dealer to come along. >>
Really shouldn't matter who buys them, as long as you get your price. Dealers sell to other dealers all the time.
Save on ebay with Big Crumbs
It doesn't matter that you're the cheapest on Ebay with the 1956 Mays BIN. When a buyer wants one he will look at them all and buy whichever one he likes the best, and it may not be the cheapest one. When the VCP wielding bargain hunter looks at your BIN he wants to pay the same price as one sold at auction by a 2 feedback seller with no picture from December 2009. On easier cards like the Mays, the VCP auction prices represent little more than wholesaling cards to bargain hunters and dealers on Ebay. With your BIN and patience you will be selling it to somebody who wants one, and not to somebody just buying it because it's cheap and they can make money on it.
<< <i>I hope all ridiculous BIN sellers die a slow death. >>
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I hope all ridiculous EBAY bargain-hunters are eaten by polar bears.
"...On easier cards like the Mays, the VCP auction prices represent little more than wholesaling cards to bargain hunters and dealers on Ebay. With your BIN and patience you will be selling it to somebody who wants one, and not to somebody just buying it because it's cheap and they can make money on it...."
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That is correct.
AND, most of those items end up as BINs run by the resellers that
got them cheap at auction.
The pendulum has simply swung too far in the anti-seller direction.
It makes no sense for sellers to run auctions AND pay EBAY to "help"
give stuff away. If I want to give stuff away, I don't need to pay EBAY
to "help" me do it.
BINs are the future and they best serve both sellers and a sustainable
market. Eventually, there is a buyer for virtually ALL BINs; sellers just
need to be patient.
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<< <i>I hope all ridiculous BIN sellers die a slow death. >>
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I hope all ridiculous EBAY bargain-hunters are eaten by polar bears.
- Ebay's 30 day fixed-price listing with best offer is only 50 cents. This is a good deal for the patient seller who wants to list something and then forget about it until some naive or desparate buyer comes along and overpays.
- With such a shortage of good old fashioned auctions anymore it is not unusual for those sellers who do chose this option to do very well (depending on what they are selling, of course) as buyers like myself who prefer to "bid away" have fewer buying options. Thus, we sometimes overbid for things because are choices are fewer.
Hope I explained this clearly. Eyebone
<< <i>"...On easier cards like the Mays, the VCP auction prices represent little more than wholesaling cards to bargain hunters and dealers on Ebay. With your BIN and patience you will be selling it to somebody who wants one, and not to somebody just buying it because it's cheap and they can make money on it...."
It makes no sense for sellers to run auctions AND pay EBAY to "help"
give stuff away. If I want to give stuff away, I don't need to pay EBAY
to "help" me do it.
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I disagree. I just think maybe it all depends on what type of cards it is. In the last 12 months i have had very little luck selling vintage cards using BIN's with BO. Even at below smr prices. I have gotten far better prices with auctions.
<< <i> disagree. I just think maybe it all depends on what type of cards it is. In the last 12 months i have had very little luck selling vintage cards using BIN's with BO. Even at below smr prices. I have gotten far better prices with auctions >>
And I disagree to that! I have set record lows for stars in PSA 9 recently! I would have done better consigning them to REA and paying 10% commish! And I am sure I am not alone....why do you think sooooo many sellers have abandoned auctions?? It only takes one time of selling a $200 card for $50 to sour you for a long time.....
<< <i>There is not really much incentive for sellers to
give commodity items away via EBAY auctions.
BINs with BO are the future for collectibles on EBAY.
The chances that another venue will succeed with
an auction scheme are about ZERO.
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Listing Counts
April 5, 2010 3:06 am
eBay ........... 101,581,719 ........... -201475
eCrater ............ 3,184,950 ..... +4436
Bonanzle ......... 2,904,456 .......... +951 >>
Hey Storm, where can I find the eBay auction numbers online? I would like to observe these as more people take advantage of the free .99 cent auctions.
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<< <i> disagree. I just think maybe it all depends on what type of cards it is. In the last 12 months i have had very little luck selling vintage cards using BIN's with BO. Even at below smr prices. I have gotten far better prices with auctions >>
It only takes one time of selling a $200 card for $50 to sour you for a long time..... >>
Well then maybe it was because the card wasnt worth $200. Price guides are only guides at best.
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<< <i> disagree. I just think maybe it all depends on what type of cards it is. In the last 12 months i have had very little luck selling vintage cards using BIN's with BO. Even at below smr prices. I have gotten far better prices with auctions >>
And I disagree to that! I have set record lows for stars in PSA 9 recently! I would have done better consigning them to REA and paying 10% commish! And I am sure I am not alone....why do you think sooooo many sellers have abandoned auctions?? It only takes one time of selling a $200 card for $50 to sour you for a long time..... >>
And after buying a few graded cards for pennies it's hard to pay more than that to the BIN/OBO's.
<< <i>And after buying a few graded cards for pennies it's hard to pay more than that to the BIN/OBO's. >>
...and the more cards that go for only pennies are sold, the less true auctions you will find (trust me - a seller doesn't want to sell a card for less than the grading fees!), until EVERYTHING is a BIN.....
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<< <i>And after buying a few graded cards for pennies it's hard to pay more than that to the BIN/OBO's. >>
...and the more cards that go for only pennies are sold, the less true auctions you will find (trust me - a seller doesn't want to sell a card for less than the grading fees!), until EVERYTHING is a BIN..... >>
I know what you mean, a few months ago I started a ton of auctions for really nice PSA 8, 9, 10's at .99 and most ended for less than $5