Guess the grade, toned 1895-O Barber 25c grade revealed post 32

blu62vette

I was given this coin yesterday for imaging from Holsonbake Numismatics yesterday for imaging, couldnt help but share it and thought it would be good for a guess the grade. Fire Away!!!

STONE

AU-55

Batman23

AU55.

Nice color on that one

Walkerguy21D

I grade the reverse stunning!

DoubleEagle59

ms64

DIMEMAN

55-58

blu62vette

one in the ballpark.....

coinguy1

MS63, though neither a higher grade, nor an AU grade would surprise me. Liberty's cheek is light enough so that it looks as if the coin could be AU, though the rest of it looks gemmy.

jmj3esq

AU58

grip

58 or# 91.

TomB

I'm in the AU55 crowd.

Broadstruck

Tough as the N.O.'s come with weakly struck centers, yet I feel this is a slider and AU55.

Yet eye appeal wise it would not surprise me if NGC had this in a market graded MS62 holder.

blu62vette

<< <i>58 or# 91. >>



The coin is in a NGC fatty holder with a sticker.

This may become more of a why it is hard to grade from pictures thread.....

MFH

I think its too nice for a 55 - I really don't see any wear anywhere - just a
touch of striking weakness...so...I'll go in DoubleEagle59's camp and say MS 64.
I could just as easily be too conservative in my grading as well.

Mark is correct - it could just as easily grade higher than his guess of MS 63.

Love the toning on this coin.

kryptonitecomics

63....the obverse looks like a 58 but I don't see any wear on the reverse so I am assuming the obverse it tricky to image.

TahoeDale

Glenn,

A super coin. MS 65 all the way!

bushmaster8

I don't see anything going on in the obv fields like you usually would expect on a 55-58, so MS63.

Ahrensdad

I'm in the AU 55-58 camp. I like the color, but I don't know if NT or AT.

PonyExpress8

I'll give you all a bit of help. There is no rub whatsoever, it is MS all the way and no one has hit it yet although one was close. The pics are just a tad light in color compared to in hand but Todd was trying to pick up both color and luster. Always a challenging trade off.

Glenn

Edited for spelling...

illini420

62???

jhdfla

66

grip

Than it could be MS 66

cape

I like it very much and if the coin has any luster I could see it in a 66 holder and maybe even 66*

coinguy1

<< <i>I'll give you all a bit of help. There is no rub whatsoever, it is MS all the way and no one has hit it yet although one was close. The pics are just a tad light in color compared to in hand but Todd was trying to pick up both color and luster. Always a challenging trade off.

Glenn

Edited for spelling... >>

In that case, I'm guessing it's in a 66 holder. But if so, the apparent flaws on the neck would make me think that grade was a stretch.

Sunnywood

EDITED TO CORRECT MY ERROR ....

The coin posted by the OP is a wonderful specimen, and is not the coin I once owned. In fact it is the Dale Krueger specimen. The Krueger set was one of the prettiest groups of Barber quarters ever formed, and a handful of his coins did end up in my set. If I go digging in my records, I will probably find more info as to where it came from long before that.

I used to own a similar 1895-O quarter, now pictured in this thread down below. In the Heritage 2003 ANA Signature Sale, there were two absolutely awesome Barber quarters in a row, lots 6994 and 6995. These were an 1894-S and an 1895 quarter, both in PCGS MS66 holders. I graded the 1894-S a 67, and the 1895 a 68. I paid crazy money for them, and still believe each of those two coins to be the finest extant of its issue. (Don't judge by the Heritage images.)

After being so inspired by those two lots, I kept going and picked up the next two, which were an 1895-O quarter PCGS MS64 and a similarly nicely toned 1895-S quarter, also PCGS MS64, both very difficult dates in the series I might add.

I was very fond of the '95-O as a date. I later put an MS67 in my set, and reluctantly sold the 64 in an ANR auction, October 2004. I thought it could have been graded 65, but PCGS is conservative on deeply toned coins, and a few marks on the cheek can always conveniently be called "grade-limiting" when you ask. (Almost every coin has something which can be used as an excuse for the current grade.) Anyway I loved the coin.

There are VERY FEW reasonably original, attractively toned 1895-O quarters. The same can be said of the other silver denominations from New Orleans that year. Congratulations to the new owner of the very awesome example posted above.

Best,
Sunnywood

TomB

Sunnywood, the 1895-O PCGS MS64 Barber quarter sold by ANR in October, 2004 is not the coin pictured above.

blu62vette

<< <i>Sunnywood, the 1895-O PCGS MS64 Barber quarter sold by ANR in October, 2004 is not the coin pictured above. >>



I sent a PM to Sunnywood about that, this is a fatty holder so I didnt think it could be, this is also higher in grade. No doubt that the one Sunnywood is referencing is also a stunner!

jhdfla

<< <i>Sunnywood, the 1895-O PCGS MS64 Barber quarter sold by ANR in October, 2004 is not the coin pictured above. >>



I agree with Tom. The coin Glenn has I'm almost certain was in the inventory of a friend of mine back in the 90's and as I recall it was in a 65 or 66 holder then. If it's the same coin is is a monster.

John

TomB

Regardless of the generation holder it is in, which is something I kept in mind before I wrote the post, the true clincher is that the mintmark position is different between the coins.

relicsncoins

I'm going with 62 for the tick marks on the cheek and neck.

Sunnywood

*** OOPS *** ... obviously I'm losing my touch !!!!!!!!

SORRY for the mistake in thinking this was my old coin ... but I do know the coin. I knew I recognized it from somewhere !!! It is the Dale Krueger specimen. The Krueger set of Barber quarters was AWESOME, and a number of them ended up in my set (frequently in higher graded holders by the time I got them). In particular, I ended up owning quite a few of his "O" mints, including the AWESOME 1909-O which was Dale Krueger - Dale Friend - Sunnywood (as PCGS MS66). I loved this 1895-O, and haven't seen it for a while, which I why I didn't IMMEDIATELY remember it as the Krueger coin !!!!!

Here's my old coin ... Stack's image, not great resolution, but you get the idea:

Justacommeman

A stunner. MJ

PonyExpress8

Thanks for guessing. A classic case of the coin in hand being a lot easier to grade then from photos.

The coin is in an old NGC Fatty graded MS66 CAC so it has been in the slab for over 15 years. It came from the Dale Krueger Collection several years ago, has a very strong strike for this New Orleans date and the toning is just stunning. If you get the chance take a look at the couple of 66's and 67's in the Heritage Archives as to strike, miniscule marks etc. It will be an interesting study both in grading and learning a bit more about Barber Quarters.

For overall eye appeal this one holds up very, very well IMHO with it's brethren.

Glenn

Broadstruck

<< <i>A classic case of the coin in hand being a lot easier to grade then from photos. >>



Yeah PonyExpress8 this one threw me for a loop!