Do buyers think padded mailers grow on trees?
shagrotn77
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I think a lot of eBay buyers discount the fact that padded mailers run anywhere from $0.50 to $1.25 when they leave feedback for cost of shipping. It's only an issue on lower priced cards. Do you guys find this to be true?
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<< <i>never had a complaint about the use of a padded mailer, although i've never bought one......i recycle everyone else's padded mailer. >>
yup, recycling's the way to go.
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<< <i>never had a complaint about the use of a padded mailer, although i've never bought one......i recycle everyone else's padded mailer. >>
yup, recycling's the way to go. >>
As long as you pull all the old address labels. Don't be giving your buyer someone else's info.
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It usually works for me.
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<< <i>never had a complaint about the use of a padded mailer, although i've never bought one......i recycle everyone else's padded mailer. >>
yup, recycling's the way to go. >>
I do this when I have the supply, otherwise I pay 3/$1... i charge exact stamp cost for shipping...
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<< <i>never had a complaint about the use of a padded mailer, although i've never bought one......i recycle everyone else's padded mailer. >>
me too.
I cut the old mailers to fit the card and slide that into a small manila envelope. Saves money and in return I am able to put the savings into other shipping upgrades like printing labels, delivery confirmation/fragile stickers, et cetera. Using the shipping labels through paypal saves me in the handling time as I don't have to go to the post office, and delivery confirmation is about 2/3 less expensive and automatic.
I'm not saying this about you, but a seller should use their head and get the shipping costs down as much as possible. As a buyer I expect the seller to ship the item the most economical and safe way and pass those savings along to me. I don't have an issue paying more than it cost for the supplies, the shipping and a handle handle time, I just ask that seller put an effort into driving their cost and time down.
Patrick >>
ahh your one of those. the two pounds of tape so that the make shift bubble mailer holds. so, i assume that you only charge someone for the exact postage then?
i dont mind paying more either, except when i get a 1/4 recycled bubble mailer with all kinds of tape that is suppose to prevent liquids from entering the "mailer".
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<< <i>I think a lot of eBay buyers discount the fact that padded mailers run anywhere from $0.50 to $1.25 when they leave feedback for cost of shipping. It's only an issue on lower priced cards. Do you guys find this to be true? >>
That's possible. Although I'm nearly 100% positive that a lot of sellers discount the fact that you can buy bubble mailers in bulk on Ebay for about $.10 each dlvd.
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<< <i>never had a complaint about the use of a padded mailer, although i've never bought one......i recycle everyone else's padded mailer. >>
me too.
I cut the old mailers to fit the card and slide that into a small manila envelope. Saves money and in return I am able to put the savings into other shipping upgrades like printing labels, delivery confirmation/fragile stickers, et cetera. Using the shipping labels through paypal saves me in the handling time as I don't have to go to the post office, and delivery confirmation is about 2/3 less expensive and automatic.
I'm not saying this about you, but a seller should use their head and get the shipping costs down as much as possible. As a buyer I expect the seller to ship the item the most economical and safe way and pass those savings along to me. I don't have an issue paying more than it cost for the supplies, the shipping and a handle handle time, I just ask that seller put an effort into driving their cost and time down.
Patrick >>
LOL, I appreciate what you're doing, but OMG do I hate getting packages that look like a Gordian knot when it comes to rescuing the card. Not saying that's how you pack, but I'm astounded sometimes at the amount of effort some folks put into securing a card just to avoid the time-honored "rigid sleeve taped shut and in a padded mailer" method.
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<< <i>.....the two pounds of tape..... >>
i admit it. i am a serial tapist.
sometimes a bit too extreme, but you can't beat excellent protection and i've never had a single complaint about a damaged card.....the flip side of this would be the shock i experience quite regularly when i receive a card in Card Saver I or some kind of semi-rigid holder, but with no other protection around it......i'm a condition freak, don't they know?
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ahh your one of those. the two pounds of tape so that the make shift bubble mailer holds. so, i assume that you only charge someone for the exact postage then?
i dont mind paying more either, except when i get a 1/4 recycled bubble mailer with all kinds of tape that is suppose to prevent liquids from entering the "mailer". >>
Not at all, I use very little tape and have a slight case of OCD. I would like to think I ship my items very safe and secure and look professional. Expensive cards, on the other hand, go into different shipping methods.
Cards go into a plastic sleeve (actually a fish bag from my father's pet shop) which were free as the supplier sent us the wrong size and let us keep the case of 10000 for their error. These bags are great for shipping cards. The card(s) go into the plastic bag, then the cut-out recycled bubble mailer, then into the manila envelope.
As far as charging for exact postage, I keep it darn close to what the buyer pays, and it it is ever grossly off for any reason I send some money back via paypal as a partial refund. I have the graded card shipping rate pretty much down, but I'm sort of experimenting with raw cards shipping prices (not used to selling raw). Keep in mind most of my items ship to Canada which requires a lot of extra time in preparation.
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<< <i>.....the two pounds of tape..... >>
i admit it. i am a serial tapist.
sometimes a bit too extreme, but you can't beat excellent protection and i've never had a single complaint about a damaged card.....the flip side of this would be the shock i experience quite regularly when i receive a card in Card Saver I or some kind of semi-rigid holder, but with no other protection around it......i'm a condition freak, don't they know? >>
I'm thinking 'excellent protection' is great idea for a serial tapist.
Just sayin'......
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<< <i>I think a lot of eBay buyers discount the fact that padded mailers run anywhere from $0.50 to $1.25 when they leave feedback for cost of shipping. It's only an issue on lower priced cards. Do you guys find this to be true? >>
That's possible. Although I'm nearly 100% positive that a lot of sellers discount the fact that you can buy bubble mailers in bulk on Ebay for about $.10 each dlvd. >>
Agreed!! Last batch I bought was around 9 cents a piece delivered for the smallest size.
I love these mailers. Sturdy and economical.
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In most cases the cost for postage came to around $1.00 or so. In the old days that would bother me. Now I am happy to get the cards and the overall service and price I find as acceptable.
If I had a problem with the final auction price it should be before I bid or win an item.
I've been on the other side and it sure does seem that some ebayers get upset if you charge a buck or two over actual postage cost.
Life's to short for this much whine.
aconte
<< <i>If paying an extra $1.00 for shipping on a card is an issue, then you probably cannot afford to be buying cards in the first place. Unfortunately, until ebay enacts an intelligence test to weed out questionable buyers, there will always be complaints on shipping, even when the shipping amount was known BEFORE bidding >>
Still does not make over charging for shipping right... ebay needs standards for what shippers can charge - they have rules for everything else!
I understand for the part time seller this might be a bit much upfront cost but I started with smaller quantity and just paid a bit more.
When I send out a card I include
.09 Bubble Mailer 6 x 9 (Purchased on ebay 500 for $42)
.06 Half page label (2 Page Lables on ebay for 100 sheets of 200 labels for $12)
.28 2 Cardboard slabs (I have these custom made for reg and tallboy slabs for 200 for $30)
.02 Gum tape and reg tape (I gum tape the ends of package for protection, purchased in bulk, need gum tape I have extra? haha)
.45 my cost of materials
Most ungraded card run 3oz and thats $1.75 first class with DC
I charge $2.50 so bottom line I come out $.30 ahead and I break even on 4 oz which is a single reg sized graded card.
.19 Bubble Bag (I only use these on $20 and up card to give them an extra layer of protection)
<< <i>I buy and sell on ebay and like to be charged a fair amount for shipping. I find that anything less than $3 on a single card is fine (I charge $2.50). As a collector I got real tired of all the crappy stuff I recieved cards in so when I started selling I decided I wanted to make sure I did everything i could to make sure my buyers get their cards in the shape I send them. I have gotten many thank yours for happy buyers because of this.
I understand for the part time seller this might be a bit much upfront cost but I started with smaller quantity and just paid a bit more.
When I send out a card I include
.09 Bubble Mailer 6 x 9 (Purchased on ebay 500 for $42)
.06 Half page label (2 Page Lables on ebay for 100 sheets of 200 labels for $12)
.28 2 Cardboard slabs (I have these custom made for reg and tallboy slabs for 200 for $30)
.02 Gum tape and reg tape (I gum tape the ends of package for protection, purchased in bulk, need gum tape I have extra? haha)
.45 my cost of materials
Most ungraded card run 3oz and thats $1.75 first class with DC
I charge $2.50 so bottom line I come out $.30 ahead and I break even on 4 oz which is a single reg sized graded card.
.19 Bubble Bag (I only use these on $20 and up card to give them an extra layer of protection) >>
Good for you... I feel the same way - if everyone just charged what they'd like to be charged if they were the buyer no one would complain... just be fair about shipping and don't try to make up the ebay/paypl fees in shipping.
To send 1 to 3 cards sandwiched between sturdy boards to someone, what size bubble mailer do you use?
Also, how do you send 50 common cards to someone? How do you packet it? You can't pack it between two boards or in a small bubble mailer, so I was just wondering how do you keep all 50 cards sturdy, without moving around and keeping the corners safe? Do I put it in soft sleeves and put it in a small box? and then bubble wrap that box? Any advice?
<< <i>I don't sweat the small stuff like this anymore. The last couple months I bought a lot of 2008-2010 Topps Heritage Phillies cards and was charged anywhere from $2.00 to $4.00 for shipping.
In most cases the cost for postage came to around $1.00 or so. In the old days that would bother me. Now I am happy to get the cards and the overall service and price I find as acceptable.
If I had a problem with the final auction price it should be before I bid or win an item.
I've been on the other side and it sure does seem that some ebayers get upset if you charge a buck or two over actual postage cost.
Life's to short for this much whine.
aconte >>
That's pretty much my opinion, as well. And I write that as a ten year eBayer who has never sold a single item, of any kind, to anybody.
If you're that touchy and petty, you need to log off, go outside and smell some flowers.
Rodney
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I jam 10 cards into a top loader, so in your example I'd use 5 top loaders and then I'd use about 20 feet of tape.
Steve
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I jam 10 cards into a top loader, so in your example I'd use 5 top loaders and then I'd use about 20 feet of tape.
Steve >>
Good one Steve!
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I jam 10 cards into a top loader, so in your example I'd use 5 top loaders and then I'd use about 20 feet of tape.
Steve >>
I think I've bought from you before.
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flip like we use to send cards in to PSA with and I'd make 5 stacks. Each stack would then have cardboard
on the front and back and I'd tape them and uplift the tape so the buyer could easily remove it.
I'd then place my 5 stacks around bubble wrap and into a small priority box they go.
If they are simply VG/EX commons I'd take less care but enough care that they would arrive safely.
Steve
<< <i> I think I've bought from you before. >>
That was you?
Steve
Fast and reasonable delivery. (I don't work there).
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For 50 to 150 card lots, I put 25 cards in a graded card sleeve with a top load on the front and the back. Seal it with tape so it doesn't come open. You can put 6 of these bundles in a padded bag. For 1-10 cards I use a smaller padded bag. I put the cards in team bag with a top load in the front and the back. I've shipped out a couple of hundred of these in the past month and haven't had any trouble.
Rick
<< <i>I think a lot of eBay buyers discount the fact that padded mailers run anywhere from $0.50 to $1.25 when they leave feedback for cost of shipping. It's only an issue on lower priced cards. Do you guys find this to be true? >>
Yes many ppl could care less about it too!
You have a valid point and that is the exact reason when I sell I usually go Here or the cheapest place I can for mailers. I also configure it into the shipping charges as well. I try to make it as cheap as possible for the buyer.
<< <i>For any Canadians out there ULINE has great packing supplies. While I don't buy bubbles mailers from them, I have bought boxes and rigid cardboard mailers.
Fast and reasonable delivery. (I don't work there). >>
Uline has a lot of supplies, but they seem pricey.
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