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1957 25C Type "B" Reverse.......picked this up over the weekend


This was unattributed in a local shop, not the highest grade but still a nice pick I think....image

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  • docgdocg Posts: 528 ✭✭
    I like it! Nice pickup.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...image
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  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    nice obverse toning, AU 53?
    "It is what it is."
  • RickMilauskasRickMilauskas Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭
    Nice purple.image
  • ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    Sumorada, if I may ask, what is the difference between the type A and the type B reverse? I don't mind asking, you learn something new every day.
    Beer is Proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy -Benjamin Franklin-
  • CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭
    very nice pick up.
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  • ClosedLoopClosedLoop Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    Great colors, nice pickup..
    figglehorn
  • djdilliodondjdilliodon Posts: 1,938 ✭✭


    << <i>Sumorada, if I may ask, what is the difference between the type A and the type B reverse? I don't mind asking, you learn something new every day. >>



    The type B quarters where struck from proof dies. The word "states" on the reverse the "es" has a greater space between the letters along with the right part of the wing tip is a sharply pointed. The leaf also touches the "A" in dollar of the reverse. There are also other things to tell a type B from your standard strikes.
  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice score on a good looking coin...image

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  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797
    Sumorada, if I may ask, what is the difference between the type A and the type B reverse? I don't mind asking, you learn something new every day.

    Go to the search box on the upper left of this page and type.....Type B Reverse.......you will find tons of info and pics along with some past and current auction price results,
    there are a few folks on these boards that are very knowledgeable on these....it's a great read.




    edited for my lack of education..(mis-spent youth)

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice I like it.


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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,265 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I saw in another thread that all the mint set 57's were type-B's. That coin sure has beautiful mint set toning.
  • Not all but I would say probably 1/4 to 1/3 of all the 1957-P's I have pulled out of original sets were type B's so that is certainly a good place to locate nice clean examples....and many have amazing toning to boot image
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As of now. I would grab any that you can at a good price this one is a nice one. I try to pick them up at $7 to $10 but as of lately they want $20+ but I'll keep looking and trying to cherry them. image


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  • <<Not all but I would say probably 1/4 to 1/3 of all the 1957-P's I have pulled out of original sets were type B's so that is certainly a good place to locate nice clean examples....and many have amazing toning to boot >>

    Did the original sets have 1 type B in them or did the B's come in pairs?
    Have you searched 1956 sets with any luck? I note 2 folk have said they found them there.

  • That reverse has just the right amount of toning to make that coin really stick out as a type B. It is so sharp, has such high relief. To my eyes I recognize it instantly without checking any PUP's.
  • <<Sumorada, if I may ask, what is the difference between the type A and the type B reverse? I don't mind asking, you learn something new every day.>>

    You asked so here is a bigger table of pick up points. There are still more.

    Type A is the original silver quarter reverse of 1932-1964, but with the date freeze was used into 1966.

    Type B was first used on proofs in 1937. It was made by extensive carving away of the field of a Type A hub (positive image, the same as the coin itself). It was last used in 1972 and only on a minority of 1968 S. It was also used on a few business strikes of 1956-1964 and 1969D-1972 D. The clad version has one tiny difference. Centerlines have been added to the tailfeathers similiar to the other clads of that period.
    Pickup points are:
    The ES separation in STATES is greater; also, rhe tail of S does not rise as high above the bottom bar of E.
    The top of the M of UNUM brackets IB of PLURIBUS just above it.
    The leaf touching the arrowhead points now juts above them and the gap from this leaf to the points is filled in.
    The top and bottom arrowhead barbs are apparently missing (they are still there but overwhelmed by the field deeping there)
    The stem end is parallel to the T of Quarter rather than angling upward
    The leaf by A of DOLLAR is connected by a solid bridge. The leaf on "A" is very faint and does not connect.
    These are unique to the type B, so you can use them against either type A or type C. since A and C are similiar in these aspects. There is a special case within the clad group where the top barb is also missing. More on that later.
    The separation in ES is obvious when you have the coin in hand. At times pictures are deceptive and especially in that apparent gap width. If the gap is there, the tail of the S does not rise as high above the bottom bar of E. Sometimes that fearure is more obvious than the gap in pictures.

  • ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    Thank you for all the replies on the type "B".
    Beer is Proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy -Benjamin Franklin-


  • << <i><<Not all but I would say probably 1/4 to 1/3 of all the 1957-P's I have pulled out of original sets were type B's so that is certainly a good place to locate nice clean examples....and many have amazing toning to boot >>

    Did the original sets have 1 type B in them or did the B's come in pairs?
    Have you searched 1956 sets with any luck? I note 2 folk have said they found them there. >>



    Always in pairs and to date I have never pulled a type B out of a 1956 or 1958 set.....and we are talking about probably 40 sets I have purchased of 1958/1956 in the last 3 to 5 years.
  • <<Always in pairs and to date I have never pulled a type B out of a 1956 or 1958 set.....and we are talking about probably 40 sets I have purchased of 1958/1956 in the last 3 to 5 years.>>

    Thank you for your reply. Now I wonder if I could het your opinion on a coule of other years.

    Did you ever see a 1959 set without a type B?
    What per centage of 1960's had a B?
  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭
    I am not a big fan of toners, but I AM a big fan of the Type B Washie. Your coin, SUMORADA, is a fantastically toned coin, and I like it alot!
    I'll come up with something.


  • << <i><<Always in pairs and to date I have never pulled a type B out of a 1956 or 1958 set.....and we are talking about probably 40 sets I have purchased of 1958/1956 in the last 3 to 5 years.>>

    Thank you for your reply. Now I wonder if I could het your opinion on a coule of other years.

    Did you ever see a 1959 set without a type B?
    What per centage of 1960's had a B? >>




    Once they went away from the carboard packaging that produced the spectacular colors....I stopped buying the sets so to date I have never bought a 1959 or 1960 Mint set.....hard to believe I know but its true image

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