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yanyak5
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deadly_silent_assassin: Hey
yanyak5: hi
deadly_silent_assassin: figured out how to get to where I can play java games again
deadly_silent_assassin: Want to play now?
yanyak5: for cards?
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah
yanyak5: what cards?
deadly_silent_assassin: not sure
deadly_silent_assassin: http://co1lector_assassin.tripod.com/co1lector_page/
deadly_silent_assassin: LMK if interested in anything on s/t or auto page
yanyak5: what room do you wanna play in?
deadly_silent_assassin: doesn't matter
yanyak5: go to Sandrine's room
yanyak5: ok?
deadly_silent_assassin: yep
yanyak5: have any griffeys?
deadly_silent_assassin: check site
yanyak5: k
deadly_silent_assassin: btw, my nickname is game_wizard_man
yanyak5: k
yanyak5: I want a 2001 UD Sweet Spots Griffey/Ramirez Game-used Bases
deadly_silent_assassin: Sorry, won't put that up
deadly_silent_assassin: Nothing you want put up on s/t or auto page?
yanyak5: how about the 2001 UD Sweet Spots Griffey Game-used Bat (GU
deadly_silent_assassin: nope
deadly_silent_assassin: Nothing that high in BV
yanyak5: I will put up a Tony Gwynn Game used bat....
yanyak5: 2002 Sweet spot
deadly_silent_assassin: nope
deadly_silent_assassin: Start out lower
deadly_silent_assassin: got list/site of what you have?
yanyak5: nope
yanyak5: ask me
deadly_silent_assassin: Is there ANYTHING you would want off my sell/trade or auto page?
yanyak5: 1993 UD BAT Mantle/B.Martin #141 this is off your trade list
deadly_silent_assassin: Not sure of BV, how much in value would you put up (about)?
yanyak5: $30
deadly_silent_assassin: Would you put up that Gwynn for it?
yanyak5: is it a Gu bat?
deadly_silent_assassin: nope
deadly_silent_assassin: GU weren't even made until '96
deadly_silent_assassin: BAT is the brand name (like SP Authentic)
yanyak5: ok
deadly_silent_assassin: Still want that put up?
yanyak5: no
deadly_silent_assassin: haha, wasn't going to put it up if it WAS a GU at $30 value
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: GU are indicated by (GU)
yanyak5: how bout this........
deadly_silent_assassin: All GU are in PC except the C.Jones
yanyak5: My McGwire, Topps #401 1985 rookie card for the Griffey GU bat?
deadly_silent_assassin: nope
deadly_silent_assassin: NOT PUTTING UP ANYTHING THAT HIGH OUT OF PC
deadly_silent_assassin: I'll sell the Griffey cards
deadly_silent_assassin: But won't put them up for betting
deadly_silent_assassin: And probably wouldn't trade them unless you had something to convince me to trade it/them
deadly_silent_assassin: So, is there anything you'd want me to put up off s/t or auto list?
deadly_silent_assassin: Would you buy any of the Griffey cards?
yanyak5: i wouldnt buy but maybe trade
yanyak5: why not the gwynn for the griffey?
yanyak5: thats fair
deadly_silent_assassin: Well, make a trade offer that would convince me to trade
deadly_silent_assassin: Not when Gwynn is probably $25 and Griffey is like $60 or $80
yanyak5: The griffey is $45 gwynn is about $40
yanyak5: i'll throw in $5.00
deadly_silent_assassin: Don't want Gwynn more than Griffey
yanyak5: ugh!
yanyak5: lol
yanyak5: but thats the gamble, you could have both
deadly_silent_assassin: and I could lose it
yanyak5: true
yanyak5: but you could have both
deadly_silent_assassin: Do you want anything off my s/t or auto page, or not?
yanyak5: no
yanyak5: how bout 2001 UD Legends C.Jones Game Jersey (GU)---pending
yanyak5: this is a GAME USED correct?
deadly_silent_assassin: yep, that's why it says GU
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: But that is what I'm using as my entry fee into my fantasy league
yanyak5: that for the gwynn?
deadly_silent_assassin: read above
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: How old are you?
yanyak5: 18
yanyak5: u?
deadly_silent_assassin: 19
yanyak5: what GU can you put in?
deadly_silent_assassin: hold on
yanyak5: k
deadly_silent_assassin: only baseball?
yanyak5: yes
deadly_silent_assassin: 2001 UD Vintage S.Bando Timless Teams (GU)
yanyak5: bv?
deadly_silent_assassin: like $15 or $20
deadly_silent_assassin: 1999 SPx T.Lee Winning Materials (w/ pinstripe-GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: 1999 UD T.Lee Hobby Game Jersey (w/ pinstripe-GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: 2001 E-X Molitor Wall of Fame (7/30/91-2,000 hit game-GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: 2000 Fleer Gamers Singleton Gamers Lumber (GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: I'd put up any of those for the Gwynn
yanyak5: how bout the molitor?
deadly_silent_assassin: ok
yanyak5: k
deadly_silent_assassin: Best 3/5?
yanyak5: how bout 2 out of 3?
deadly_silent_assassin: Hold on....have to put a card aside before I forget about it
deadly_silent_assassin: ok
yanyak5: 2 out of three it is
deadly_silent_assassin: pick a room
yanyak5: same room as before. Sandrine's
yanyak5: u there?
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah
yanyak5: i am ihadtrouble
deadly_silent_assassin: nickname?
deadly_silent_assassin: oh, ok
yanyak5: are you playing for cards or not?
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah, don't go back on my word
yanyak5: k
deadly_silent_assassin: Just won't do it anymore until I can make these pool tables smaller
yanyak5: oh
deadly_silent_assassin: That's all I could do
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: figures
yanyak5: 1 down 2 to go
deadly_silent_assassin: Now won't even let me push start
yanyak5: it has to
yanyak5: come on
deadly_silent_assassin: I'm playing on Netscape 4.7 (so that gives you an idea)
deadly_silent_assassin: There
deadly_silent_assassin: Would be better if one of these new Netscape or IE versions had java on them
deadly_silent_assassin: Why couldn't you have hit 8-ball in?
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: break those 4 at bottom up
yanyak5: um....no
deadly_silent_assassin: they are going to be there all game then
deadly_silent_assassin: HEY. Got it so I can hit on the ball now
deadly_silent_assassin: Now you're dead
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: we need to break those up in the bottom right and right center
yanyak5: go for it
deadly_silent_assassin: just made worse
deadly_silent_assassin: That's not fair
deadly_silent_assassin: hey. hit red to purple to green
deadly_silent_assassin: There we go
deadly_silent_assassin: ns
deadly_silent_assassin: still your turn
deadly_silent_assassin: That was LUCK
yanyak5: lol.......i know
deadly_silent_assassin: Come on
deadly_silent_assassin: Give me a shot
deadly_silent_assassin: You still got another game
yanyak5: heres your shot
deadly_silent_assassin: boy, thanks
deadly_silent_assassin: 1 more shot for me?
yanyak5: yep
deadly_silent_assassin: you said 1 more
yanyak5: you just had it
deadly_silent_assassin: You know what I meant
yanyak5: good game
deadly_silent_assassin: What card would you take out of those other cards I listed to put up the Gwynn?
deadly_silent_assassin: u2
yanyak5: 2001 E-X Molitor Wall of Fame (7/30/91-2,000 hit game-GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: You just won that, didn't you?
yanyak5: yep
yanyak5: are you saying you want to go again?
deadly_silent_assassin: I meant what card would you accept now for me to up with for the Gwynn?
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah
yanyak5: i dont know if i want to play agian
deadly_silent_assassin: Got to at least win 1 GU
deadly_silent_assassin: Why? Afraid to lose?
yanyak5: yeah
deadly_silent_assassin: haha
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah right
deadly_silent_assassin: You beat me 2-0 and you think you will lose?
yanyak5: i could
deadly_silent_assassin: Doubt it, but gives you another chance to win another GU
yanyak5: if you think im going to win then why are you going to put up another card?
deadly_silent_assassin: Have to win a GU back to add to my collection
deadly_silent_assassin: If I lose again, then I'll stop
deadly_silent_assassin: How about A-Rod/Sheffield GU Base?
deadly_silent_assassin: Not sure of BV though
yanyak5: how bout the griffey card?
deadly_silent_assassin: Nope
deadly_silent_assassin: Don't start that again
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: I told you, I'm not putting those up
yanyak5: worth a shot
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: If you wanted any of them THAT bad, you would BUY them
yanyak5: dont have the money
deadly_silent_assassin: Would you put the Gwynn up against one of my T.Lee GJ (w/stripe) cards, Bando Bat, or Sheffield/A-Rod Base?
yanyak5: im thinking about the sheffield a-rod
deadly_silent_assassin: ok
deadly_silent_assassin: Are GU all you want?
deadly_silent_assassin: If not, I'd put up my A-Rod refractor for a less expensive card
deadly_silent_assassin: or something like that
yanyak5: lets do the game used
deadly_silent_assassin: A-Rod/Sheffield?
yanyak5: yep
yanyak5: for the gwynn
deadly_silent_assassin: ok
yanyak5: 2 out of 3 again
deadly_silent_assassin: yep
deadly_silent_assassin: What did I make?
yanyak5: white round
yanyak5: stripe i geuss
deadly_silent_assassin: You can't tell?
deadly_silent_assassin: #11, that's what it was
yanyak5: it's the ball with a big white spot on it
deadly_silent_assassin: That one ball should have gone in
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: This sucks. Why aren't any of mine going in?
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: you're cheating
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: Guess I'm going to lose 2 GU today
yanyak5: maybe not
deadly_silent_assassin: I'm not going to put anymore GU up if I play for cards anymore
yanyak5: maybe not
yanyak5: in the words of Yogi Berra "It aint over till it's over"
deadly_silent_assassin: It's over
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: See, that's not fair. Purple was by side when it stopped. now it's at corner
yanyak5: u are only one ball behind me
deadly_silent_assassin: whew
deadly_silent_assassin: what happened?
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: seriously
yanyak5: 1 more game to win
deadly_silent_assassin: It showed it going in
deadly_silent_assassin: This is FUKING BULLSHT
yanyak5: why?
deadly_silent_assassin: almost every ball lined up perfectly misses
deadly_silent_assassin: I could ge 2 inches away
deadly_silent_assassin: be
deadly_silent_assassin: go
deadly_silent_assassin: watch
deadly_silent_assassin: See, I made my ball. Why didn't I get to shoot again?
yanyak5: u made my ball
deadly_silent_assassin: That was a solid
deadly_silent_assassin: That was #4 ball
yanyak5: i geuss it was
deadly_silent_assassin: This game is FUCED up
yanyak5: its tied up anyway
deadly_silent_assassin: Doesn't matter
deadly_silent_assassin: Been doing this the whole time
deadly_silent_assassin: See, there was no possibility of that ball going in
deadly_silent_assassin: I'm sorry, but I sending you cards if it cheats to let you win
yanyak5: the game isnt choosing anyone to win...
deadly_silent_assassin: Then how is it that it lets you shoot when I made my ball (after hitting my ball 1st)?
deadly_silent_assassin: And you make shots that are literally impossible
yanyak5: you probably made a foul
deadly_silent_assassin: nope
yanyak5: your making good shots
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah, a couple
yanyak5: impossible
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah, see?
yanyak5: but you made it
deadly_silent_assassin: I'm not going to consider anyone a winner when the games does impossible things
yanyak5: so your not playing for the card?
deadly_silent_assassin: no
yanyak5: so i am wasting my time?
deadly_silent_assassin: yep
yanyak5: i thought you didnt go back on your word
deadly_silent_assassin: not unless there are extreme cercumstances
yanyak5: you offered to play i again...I didnt...you knew how the game was played...
deadly_silent_assassin: I know how it's played
yanyak5: so lets finish
deadly_silent_assassin: You can beat me to boost your rating
yanyak5: i dont care about the rating......i was PROMISED a card if i won
deadly_silent_assassin: Well, it's not my fault it cheats
deadly_silent_assassin: If it were doing same thing, I wouldn't accept the card from you
yanyak5: Games like this dont cheat...It's a program
deadly_silent_assassin: I want it to be fair
yanyak5: it is fair
deadly_silent_assassin: Then explain how you make impossible shots and I can't make straight shots from 3 inches away, AND I didn't get to shoot again when I made my ball
yanyak5: Because i take my time and align it correctly
deadly_silent_assassin: Youeven admitted that it made my ball on an impossible shot
deadly_silent_assassin: So do I
deadly_silent_assassin: But on straight shots, you don't have to align
yanyak5: Even in real life when you are playing, If you hit a ball hard enough it can bounce all over and it can even go in
deadly_silent_assassin: not on those shots that went in
deadly_silent_assassin: Believe me, I spend $100/month playing pool
deadly_silent_assassin: I know what shots are impossible
yanyak5: i believe you
yanyak5: so lets do something to make this fair
deadly_silent_assassin: Well, until I KNOW that a game is working correctly, I won't play pool again
deadly_silent_assassin: If there is another head-to-head game that works, that's fine
deadly_silent_assassin: Do you like fantasy sports games at all?
yanyak5: never played em
deadly_silent_assassin: oh
yanyak5: am i still getting the first card i won?
deadly_silent_assassin: No, because it is the same system, but.....
deadly_silent_assassin: Have you seen my advertisement on CU for my fantasy baseball league?
yanyak5: I dont care about that right now
yanyak5: I won the card fair and square
deadly_silent_assassin: Well, to make things interesting, I take entry fees to join my league, and winner of league wins a
deadly_silent_assassin: all entry fees
deadly_silent_assassin: Was going to offer to let you join, and I'd waive the fee for you
yanyak5: How bout this, I post this Conversation on CU and we let everyone decide who get's the card?
deadly_silent_assassin: That is why my C.Jones GU was pending
deadly_silent_assassin: that's fine
yanyak5: So if people favor in my direction then you will mail me the card?
deadly_silent_assassin: I've played pool with a couple other people and the program worked fine, so I had no problem sending out the cards when I lost
deadly_silent_assassin: In fact, lost 2 GU to 1 person at one time and still sent them out
yanyak5: and you were going to lose to again
yanyak5: two
deadly_silent_assassin: If I had no problem sending out the 2 the one time, why would I have a problem sending out 2 again (unless something was wrong)?
yanyak5: The first card you lost, and you admitted to it....and then you wanted to go again for another card
yanyak5: so dont tell me i didnt win a card
deadly_silent_assassin: I have never had a problem with completing a deal on CU (or any other place) and I take pride in that
yanyak5: so then live up to your deal
yanyak5: forget about the second card
yanyak5: right now you owe me a card
yanyak5: and that is the 2001 E-X Molitor Wall of Fame (7/30/91-2,000 hit game-GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: If the program is doing things that is not possible, then I will not have anything to deal with that program until I am satisfied that it works properly
deadly_silent_assassin: And that's why I said I will no longer play pool on yahoo until I am satisfied the program is fixed
yanyak5: Programs dont cheat...Especially programs from yahoo! They cant afford to put cheating programs on the web site
deadly_silent_assassin: Then explain to me how those things are possible that I asked you earlier. You still haven't explained that
yanyak5: hello there this is yanyaks friend who has been watching the whole game
deadly_silent_assassin: But I can. Impossible shots can't be made (in real life or animated)
yanyak5: you owe him the one card...
deadly_silent_assassin: hello there this is co1lector's friend who has been watching the whole game too and has seen the problems that have been occuring
yanyak5: now the second card... since the last game was never completed will be forgotten about...
yanyak5: you fully well knew that you were betting a SECOND card on the same game... in whihc you intiaited ... and now are trying to back out of the deal
yanyak5: you atleast owe hime the first one...
yanyak5: otherwise you are being unfair and using blaiming the compuer program for yor lose
yanyak5: loss*
deadly_silent_assassin: When it is the truth, then yes, I will blame whatever (or whoever) deserves the blame
yanyak5: the statement you made that "impossible" shots were made is quite an oxymoron ... seeing as though the shots were made thus making them possible
deadly_silent_assassin: In fact, I mentioned canceling the games because of the programs problems RIGHT AFTER I had made an impossible shot
yanyak5: yeah the was during the deal of the second card
yanyak5: the frist card was already in the bag... so to speak
yanyak5: why did you continue to play and not order an immediate halt???
yanyak5: not until the game was coming to a close...
deadly_silent_assassin: Because it was impossible to see that the program was creating problems when I knocked the 8-ball in in one of 1st shots on 1st game
deadly_silent_assassin: (which can happen, I'll admit)
yanyak5: if this is posted on the CU website and people agree with me... will you send me the card that I won
yanyak5: ???
deadly_silent_assassin: The only things I will do will enter you into my FBL and waive the fee or play another game (after playing several practice ones to see that it is ok), and if I win...you don't send me anything. If I lose, then I'll send you the Molitor
yanyak5: hi friend again.... i think that you should just send him the card he won... otherwise you are cheating him out of the deal... which constitues the breech of contract....
deadly_silent_assassin: As I mentioned before, I will not accept or send any cards unless it is fair
yanyak5: i find it appaling that you would try to go back on your word...after the fact...
yanyak5: it was fair and you admitted loss... and then proceeded to ask to play again
yanyak5: for another card
deadly_silent_assassin: Making impossible shots, taking away people's shots after making their own ball is not part of pool
yanyak5: which means that you had already lost the first
yanyak5: you even played a practice game before both sets of games
deadly_silent_assassin: As I said before, the 1st game was ended by the 8-ball going in early (so could not determine that it was screwing up)
yanyak5: deadly_silent_assassin: I meant what card would you accept now for me to up with for the Gwynn?
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah
yanyak5: i dont know if i want to play agian
deadly_silent_assassin: Got to at least win 1 GU
deadly_silent_assassin: Why? Afraid to lose?
yanyak5: yeah
deadly_silent_assassin: haha
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah right
deadly_silent_assassin: You beat me 2-0 and you think you will lose?
yanyak5: i could
deadly_silent_assassin: Doubt it, but gives you another chance to win another GU
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah, and who knocked the 8-ball in ON PURPOSE before game was finished before starting the game? YOU
yanyak5: no that was a mistake...
yanyak5: and here is what you said after the game was ended
deadly_silent_assassin: How is it a mistake when it was a straight shot to make the 8-ball in?
deadly_silent_assassin: I know what I said
deadly_silent_assassin: That's why I say, "As I said before....."
yanyak5: which means taht you owe him a card
yanyak5: This is yanyak5 again...
yanyak5: I still feel i should post this convo on the site....
deadly_silent_assassin: That's fine with me
yanyak5: I feel i have made my point loud and clear...goodbye
deadly_silent_assassin: I believe I have about 20 references on CU with no problem. Now, if a program screwing up is going to contradict my perfect trading feedback, then unfortunately that seems that will happen
yanyak5: You cant blame a program
deadly_silent_assassin: and every time I've received 1st. If I was going to screw anyone out of cards, don't you think I'd keep a big trade that has no proof of delivery and say I never got it? NO, because I don't deal like that
yanyak5: Then send me the card that you said i rightfully won
deadly_silent_assassin: well, if you go to a bar with pool tables and ask the owner if any of those side shots are possible and he tells you yes, then he will be the 1st
yanyak5: i will post everything up to this point......
yanyak5: goodbye
yanyak5: hi
deadly_silent_assassin: figured out how to get to where I can play java games again
deadly_silent_assassin: Want to play now?
yanyak5: for cards?
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah
yanyak5: what cards?
deadly_silent_assassin: not sure
deadly_silent_assassin: http://co1lector_assassin.tripod.com/co1lector_page/
deadly_silent_assassin: LMK if interested in anything on s/t or auto page
yanyak5: what room do you wanna play in?
deadly_silent_assassin: doesn't matter
yanyak5: go to Sandrine's room
yanyak5: ok?
deadly_silent_assassin: yep
yanyak5: have any griffeys?
deadly_silent_assassin: check site
yanyak5: k
deadly_silent_assassin: btw, my nickname is game_wizard_man
yanyak5: k
yanyak5: I want a 2001 UD Sweet Spots Griffey/Ramirez Game-used Bases
deadly_silent_assassin: Sorry, won't put that up
deadly_silent_assassin: Nothing you want put up on s/t or auto page?
yanyak5: how about the 2001 UD Sweet Spots Griffey Game-used Bat (GU
deadly_silent_assassin: nope
deadly_silent_assassin: Nothing that high in BV
yanyak5: I will put up a Tony Gwynn Game used bat....
yanyak5: 2002 Sweet spot
deadly_silent_assassin: nope
deadly_silent_assassin: Start out lower
deadly_silent_assassin: got list/site of what you have?
yanyak5: nope
yanyak5: ask me
deadly_silent_assassin: Is there ANYTHING you would want off my sell/trade or auto page?
yanyak5: 1993 UD BAT Mantle/B.Martin #141 this is off your trade list
deadly_silent_assassin: Not sure of BV, how much in value would you put up (about)?
yanyak5: $30
deadly_silent_assassin: Would you put up that Gwynn for it?
yanyak5: is it a Gu bat?
deadly_silent_assassin: nope
deadly_silent_assassin: GU weren't even made until '96
deadly_silent_assassin: BAT is the brand name (like SP Authentic)
yanyak5: ok
deadly_silent_assassin: Still want that put up?
yanyak5: no
deadly_silent_assassin: haha, wasn't going to put it up if it WAS a GU at $30 value
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: GU are indicated by (GU)
yanyak5: how bout this........
deadly_silent_assassin: All GU are in PC except the C.Jones
yanyak5: My McGwire, Topps #401 1985 rookie card for the Griffey GU bat?
deadly_silent_assassin: nope
deadly_silent_assassin: NOT PUTTING UP ANYTHING THAT HIGH OUT OF PC
deadly_silent_assassin: I'll sell the Griffey cards
deadly_silent_assassin: But won't put them up for betting
deadly_silent_assassin: And probably wouldn't trade them unless you had something to convince me to trade it/them
deadly_silent_assassin: So, is there anything you'd want me to put up off s/t or auto list?
deadly_silent_assassin: Would you buy any of the Griffey cards?
yanyak5: i wouldnt buy but maybe trade
yanyak5: why not the gwynn for the griffey?
yanyak5: thats fair
deadly_silent_assassin: Well, make a trade offer that would convince me to trade
deadly_silent_assassin: Not when Gwynn is probably $25 and Griffey is like $60 or $80
yanyak5: The griffey is $45 gwynn is about $40
yanyak5: i'll throw in $5.00
deadly_silent_assassin: Don't want Gwynn more than Griffey
yanyak5: ugh!
yanyak5: lol
yanyak5: but thats the gamble, you could have both
deadly_silent_assassin: and I could lose it
yanyak5: true
yanyak5: but you could have both
deadly_silent_assassin: Do you want anything off my s/t or auto page, or not?
yanyak5: no
yanyak5: how bout 2001 UD Legends C.Jones Game Jersey (GU)---pending
yanyak5: this is a GAME USED correct?
deadly_silent_assassin: yep, that's why it says GU
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: But that is what I'm using as my entry fee into my fantasy league
yanyak5: that for the gwynn?
deadly_silent_assassin: read above
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: How old are you?
yanyak5: 18
yanyak5: u?
deadly_silent_assassin: 19
yanyak5: what GU can you put in?
deadly_silent_assassin: hold on
yanyak5: k
deadly_silent_assassin: only baseball?
yanyak5: yes
deadly_silent_assassin: 2001 UD Vintage S.Bando Timless Teams (GU)
yanyak5: bv?
deadly_silent_assassin: like $15 or $20
deadly_silent_assassin: 1999 SPx T.Lee Winning Materials (w/ pinstripe-GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: 1999 UD T.Lee Hobby Game Jersey (w/ pinstripe-GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: 2001 E-X Molitor Wall of Fame (7/30/91-2,000 hit game-GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: 2000 Fleer Gamers Singleton Gamers Lumber (GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: I'd put up any of those for the Gwynn
yanyak5: how bout the molitor?
deadly_silent_assassin: ok
yanyak5: k
deadly_silent_assassin: Best 3/5?
yanyak5: how bout 2 out of 3?
deadly_silent_assassin: Hold on....have to put a card aside before I forget about it
deadly_silent_assassin: ok
yanyak5: 2 out of three it is
deadly_silent_assassin: pick a room
yanyak5: same room as before. Sandrine's
yanyak5: u there?
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah
yanyak5: i am ihadtrouble
deadly_silent_assassin: nickname?
deadly_silent_assassin: oh, ok
yanyak5: are you playing for cards or not?
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah, don't go back on my word
yanyak5: k
deadly_silent_assassin: Just won't do it anymore until I can make these pool tables smaller
yanyak5: oh
deadly_silent_assassin: That's all I could do
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: figures
yanyak5: 1 down 2 to go
deadly_silent_assassin: Now won't even let me push start
yanyak5: it has to
yanyak5: come on
deadly_silent_assassin: I'm playing on Netscape 4.7 (so that gives you an idea)
deadly_silent_assassin: There
deadly_silent_assassin: Would be better if one of these new Netscape or IE versions had java on them
deadly_silent_assassin: Why couldn't you have hit 8-ball in?
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: break those 4 at bottom up
yanyak5: um....no
deadly_silent_assassin: they are going to be there all game then
deadly_silent_assassin: HEY. Got it so I can hit on the ball now
deadly_silent_assassin: Now you're dead
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: we need to break those up in the bottom right and right center
yanyak5: go for it
deadly_silent_assassin: just made worse
deadly_silent_assassin: That's not fair
deadly_silent_assassin: hey. hit red to purple to green
deadly_silent_assassin: There we go
deadly_silent_assassin: ns
deadly_silent_assassin: still your turn
deadly_silent_assassin: That was LUCK
yanyak5: lol.......i know
deadly_silent_assassin: Come on
deadly_silent_assassin: Give me a shot
deadly_silent_assassin: You still got another game
yanyak5: heres your shot
deadly_silent_assassin: boy, thanks
deadly_silent_assassin: 1 more shot for me?
yanyak5: yep
deadly_silent_assassin: you said 1 more
yanyak5: you just had it
deadly_silent_assassin: You know what I meant
yanyak5: good game
deadly_silent_assassin: What card would you take out of those other cards I listed to put up the Gwynn?
deadly_silent_assassin: u2
yanyak5: 2001 E-X Molitor Wall of Fame (7/30/91-2,000 hit game-GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: You just won that, didn't you?
yanyak5: yep
yanyak5: are you saying you want to go again?
deadly_silent_assassin: I meant what card would you accept now for me to up with for the Gwynn?
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah
yanyak5: i dont know if i want to play agian
deadly_silent_assassin: Got to at least win 1 GU
deadly_silent_assassin: Why? Afraid to lose?
yanyak5: yeah
deadly_silent_assassin: haha
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah right
deadly_silent_assassin: You beat me 2-0 and you think you will lose?
yanyak5: i could
deadly_silent_assassin: Doubt it, but gives you another chance to win another GU
yanyak5: if you think im going to win then why are you going to put up another card?
deadly_silent_assassin: Have to win a GU back to add to my collection
deadly_silent_assassin: If I lose again, then I'll stop
deadly_silent_assassin: How about A-Rod/Sheffield GU Base?
deadly_silent_assassin: Not sure of BV though
yanyak5: how bout the griffey card?
deadly_silent_assassin: Nope
deadly_silent_assassin: Don't start that again
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: I told you, I'm not putting those up
yanyak5: worth a shot
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: If you wanted any of them THAT bad, you would BUY them
yanyak5: dont have the money
deadly_silent_assassin: Would you put the Gwynn up against one of my T.Lee GJ (w/stripe) cards, Bando Bat, or Sheffield/A-Rod Base?
yanyak5: im thinking about the sheffield a-rod
deadly_silent_assassin: ok
deadly_silent_assassin: Are GU all you want?
deadly_silent_assassin: If not, I'd put up my A-Rod refractor for a less expensive card
deadly_silent_assassin: or something like that
yanyak5: lets do the game used
deadly_silent_assassin: A-Rod/Sheffield?
yanyak5: yep
yanyak5: for the gwynn
deadly_silent_assassin: ok
yanyak5: 2 out of 3 again
deadly_silent_assassin: yep
deadly_silent_assassin: What did I make?
yanyak5: white round
yanyak5: stripe i geuss
deadly_silent_assassin: You can't tell?
deadly_silent_assassin: #11, that's what it was
yanyak5: it's the ball with a big white spot on it
deadly_silent_assassin: That one ball should have gone in
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: This sucks. Why aren't any of mine going in?
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: you're cheating
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: Guess I'm going to lose 2 GU today
yanyak5: maybe not
deadly_silent_assassin: I'm not going to put anymore GU up if I play for cards anymore
yanyak5: maybe not
yanyak5: in the words of Yogi Berra "It aint over till it's over"
deadly_silent_assassin: It's over
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: See, that's not fair. Purple was by side when it stopped. now it's at corner
yanyak5: u are only one ball behind me
deadly_silent_assassin: whew
deadly_silent_assassin: what happened?
yanyak5: lol
deadly_silent_assassin: seriously
yanyak5: 1 more game to win
deadly_silent_assassin: It showed it going in
deadly_silent_assassin: This is FUKING BULLSHT
yanyak5: why?
deadly_silent_assassin: almost every ball lined up perfectly misses
deadly_silent_assassin: I could ge 2 inches away
deadly_silent_assassin: be
deadly_silent_assassin: go
deadly_silent_assassin: watch
deadly_silent_assassin: See, I made my ball. Why didn't I get to shoot again?
yanyak5: u made my ball
deadly_silent_assassin: That was a solid
deadly_silent_assassin: That was #4 ball
yanyak5: i geuss it was
deadly_silent_assassin: This game is FUCED up
yanyak5: its tied up anyway
deadly_silent_assassin: Doesn't matter
deadly_silent_assassin: Been doing this the whole time
deadly_silent_assassin: See, there was no possibility of that ball going in
deadly_silent_assassin: I'm sorry, but I sending you cards if it cheats to let you win
yanyak5: the game isnt choosing anyone to win...
deadly_silent_assassin: Then how is it that it lets you shoot when I made my ball (after hitting my ball 1st)?
deadly_silent_assassin: And you make shots that are literally impossible
yanyak5: you probably made a foul
deadly_silent_assassin: nope
yanyak5: your making good shots
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah, a couple
yanyak5: impossible
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah, see?
yanyak5: but you made it
deadly_silent_assassin: I'm not going to consider anyone a winner when the games does impossible things
yanyak5: so your not playing for the card?
deadly_silent_assassin: no
yanyak5: so i am wasting my time?
deadly_silent_assassin: yep
yanyak5: i thought you didnt go back on your word
deadly_silent_assassin: not unless there are extreme cercumstances
yanyak5: you offered to play i again...I didnt...you knew how the game was played...
deadly_silent_assassin: I know how it's played
yanyak5: so lets finish
deadly_silent_assassin: You can beat me to boost your rating
yanyak5: i dont care about the rating......i was PROMISED a card if i won
deadly_silent_assassin: Well, it's not my fault it cheats
deadly_silent_assassin: If it were doing same thing, I wouldn't accept the card from you
yanyak5: Games like this dont cheat...It's a program
deadly_silent_assassin: I want it to be fair
yanyak5: it is fair
deadly_silent_assassin: Then explain how you make impossible shots and I can't make straight shots from 3 inches away, AND I didn't get to shoot again when I made my ball
yanyak5: Because i take my time and align it correctly
deadly_silent_assassin: Youeven admitted that it made my ball on an impossible shot
deadly_silent_assassin: So do I
deadly_silent_assassin: But on straight shots, you don't have to align
yanyak5: Even in real life when you are playing, If you hit a ball hard enough it can bounce all over and it can even go in
deadly_silent_assassin: not on those shots that went in
deadly_silent_assassin: Believe me, I spend $100/month playing pool
deadly_silent_assassin: I know what shots are impossible
yanyak5: i believe you
yanyak5: so lets do something to make this fair
deadly_silent_assassin: Well, until I KNOW that a game is working correctly, I won't play pool again
deadly_silent_assassin: If there is another head-to-head game that works, that's fine
deadly_silent_assassin: Do you like fantasy sports games at all?
yanyak5: never played em
deadly_silent_assassin: oh
yanyak5: am i still getting the first card i won?
deadly_silent_assassin: No, because it is the same system, but.....
deadly_silent_assassin: Have you seen my advertisement on CU for my fantasy baseball league?
yanyak5: I dont care about that right now
yanyak5: I won the card fair and square
deadly_silent_assassin: Well, to make things interesting, I take entry fees to join my league, and winner of league wins a
deadly_silent_assassin: all entry fees
deadly_silent_assassin: Was going to offer to let you join, and I'd waive the fee for you
yanyak5: How bout this, I post this Conversation on CU and we let everyone decide who get's the card?
deadly_silent_assassin: That is why my C.Jones GU was pending
deadly_silent_assassin: that's fine
yanyak5: So if people favor in my direction then you will mail me the card?
deadly_silent_assassin: I've played pool with a couple other people and the program worked fine, so I had no problem sending out the cards when I lost
deadly_silent_assassin: In fact, lost 2 GU to 1 person at one time and still sent them out
yanyak5: and you were going to lose to again
yanyak5: two
deadly_silent_assassin: If I had no problem sending out the 2 the one time, why would I have a problem sending out 2 again (unless something was wrong)?
yanyak5: The first card you lost, and you admitted to it....and then you wanted to go again for another card
yanyak5: so dont tell me i didnt win a card
deadly_silent_assassin: I have never had a problem with completing a deal on CU (or any other place) and I take pride in that
yanyak5: so then live up to your deal
yanyak5: forget about the second card
yanyak5: right now you owe me a card
yanyak5: and that is the 2001 E-X Molitor Wall of Fame (7/30/91-2,000 hit game-GU)
deadly_silent_assassin: If the program is doing things that is not possible, then I will not have anything to deal with that program until I am satisfied that it works properly
deadly_silent_assassin: And that's why I said I will no longer play pool on yahoo until I am satisfied the program is fixed
yanyak5: Programs dont cheat...Especially programs from yahoo! They cant afford to put cheating programs on the web site
deadly_silent_assassin: Then explain to me how those things are possible that I asked you earlier. You still haven't explained that
yanyak5: hello there this is yanyaks friend who has been watching the whole game
deadly_silent_assassin: But I can. Impossible shots can't be made (in real life or animated)
yanyak5: you owe him the one card...
deadly_silent_assassin: hello there this is co1lector's friend who has been watching the whole game too and has seen the problems that have been occuring
yanyak5: now the second card... since the last game was never completed will be forgotten about...
yanyak5: you fully well knew that you were betting a SECOND card on the same game... in whihc you intiaited ... and now are trying to back out of the deal
yanyak5: you atleast owe hime the first one...
yanyak5: otherwise you are being unfair and using blaiming the compuer program for yor lose
yanyak5: loss*
deadly_silent_assassin: When it is the truth, then yes, I will blame whatever (or whoever) deserves the blame
yanyak5: the statement you made that "impossible" shots were made is quite an oxymoron ... seeing as though the shots were made thus making them possible
deadly_silent_assassin: In fact, I mentioned canceling the games because of the programs problems RIGHT AFTER I had made an impossible shot
yanyak5: yeah the was during the deal of the second card
yanyak5: the frist card was already in the bag... so to speak
yanyak5: why did you continue to play and not order an immediate halt???
yanyak5: not until the game was coming to a close...
deadly_silent_assassin: Because it was impossible to see that the program was creating problems when I knocked the 8-ball in in one of 1st shots on 1st game
deadly_silent_assassin: (which can happen, I'll admit)
yanyak5: if this is posted on the CU website and people agree with me... will you send me the card that I won
yanyak5: ???
deadly_silent_assassin: The only things I will do will enter you into my FBL and waive the fee or play another game (after playing several practice ones to see that it is ok), and if I win...you don't send me anything. If I lose, then I'll send you the Molitor
yanyak5: hi friend again.... i think that you should just send him the card he won... otherwise you are cheating him out of the deal... which constitues the breech of contract....
deadly_silent_assassin: As I mentioned before, I will not accept or send any cards unless it is fair
yanyak5: i find it appaling that you would try to go back on your word...after the fact...
yanyak5: it was fair and you admitted loss... and then proceeded to ask to play again
yanyak5: for another card
deadly_silent_assassin: Making impossible shots, taking away people's shots after making their own ball is not part of pool
yanyak5: which means that you had already lost the first
yanyak5: you even played a practice game before both sets of games
deadly_silent_assassin: As I said before, the 1st game was ended by the 8-ball going in early (so could not determine that it was screwing up)
yanyak5: deadly_silent_assassin: I meant what card would you accept now for me to up with for the Gwynn?
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah
yanyak5: i dont know if i want to play agian
deadly_silent_assassin: Got to at least win 1 GU
deadly_silent_assassin: Why? Afraid to lose?
yanyak5: yeah
deadly_silent_assassin: haha
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah right
deadly_silent_assassin: You beat me 2-0 and you think you will lose?
yanyak5: i could
deadly_silent_assassin: Doubt it, but gives you another chance to win another GU
deadly_silent_assassin: yeah, and who knocked the 8-ball in ON PURPOSE before game was finished before starting the game? YOU
yanyak5: no that was a mistake...
yanyak5: and here is what you said after the game was ended
deadly_silent_assassin: How is it a mistake when it was a straight shot to make the 8-ball in?
deadly_silent_assassin: I know what I said
deadly_silent_assassin: That's why I say, "As I said before....."
yanyak5: which means taht you owe him a card
yanyak5: This is yanyak5 again...
yanyak5: I still feel i should post this convo on the site....
deadly_silent_assassin: That's fine with me
yanyak5: I feel i have made my point loud and clear...goodbye
deadly_silent_assassin: I believe I have about 20 references on CU with no problem. Now, if a program screwing up is going to contradict my perfect trading feedback, then unfortunately that seems that will happen
yanyak5: You cant blame a program
deadly_silent_assassin: and every time I've received 1st. If I was going to screw anyone out of cards, don't you think I'd keep a big trade that has no proof of delivery and say I never got it? NO, because I don't deal like that
yanyak5: Then send me the card that you said i rightfully won
deadly_silent_assassin: well, if you go to a bar with pool tables and ask the owner if any of those side shots are possible and he tells you yes, then he will be the 1st
yanyak5: i will post everything up to this point......
yanyak5: goodbye
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collector - want to trade with me? You send first to me you little pansy...............
I'm off to change my nickname to collectorsucks.......................................................
Also, it would allow balls to be made on literally impossible shots. In real life, some of those shots would NEVER had gone in; so the program was not acting properly in that aspect either (for either of us).
P.S. I have played 2 or 3 other people on yahoo pool for cards, and ended up losing to each of them. I've had to send out 3 cards and only gotten 1 (1-1 and 0-2 with 2 players). Even though I didn't want to, I had no problems (or excuses) of sending out the cards to the people. In fact, I can look up the names for anyone who wants them and you can talk with them. I forgot to get the 2 cards out of the one person (and lost contact when my msn messanger was disconnected), but I still searched until I found him mailing info and sent out the cards.
If anyone has any other serious questions (like Chris'), I have no problem answering them.
P.P.S. Just for reference, I don't associate with anyone who has a name like Leonsucks and doesn't have references. If that person doesn't have the balls to reply with his true s/n, then I don't respect him (I could create many nicknames, then just say I agree with my side).
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Are you saying that i made this screen name up to fight on my side?
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i believe that if there was something strange going on in the first game, but no one cancelled it, and co1lector wanted to play another series, the first series was over and finished, yanyak5 gets the Molitor.
the second series, you both agreed to cancel it, it is cancelled.
i also believe that co1lector was not making this up just to keep his cards.
it sounds legit to me.
i have had some things just like they experienced in the pool games. the balls are rolling, than the game almost fast forwards to a new frame where all the balls are stopped in their resting position where they should be. sometimes this happens, and you made the ball on a "slop" shot where you hit it with full power, and it ends up you made one (but you never saw it go in, since it....fastforwards to the end of the shot...(that is the best way to explain it).
so those are my opinions.
David
p.s. he is my last thought. there should be a spectator to these pool games you people have for cards. this is exactly why i don't do them. if you had someone else watching, that person could say that he witnessed the stuff in...maybe both games, and that they both shouldn't count...or whatever.
yanyak5 said his friend was there, but that is not what i mean. co1lector could have just as easily said the same thing. he could say he has a friend over who watched, and would agree with him.
co1lector doesn't (and we don't) know if you actually had someone over, or were just trying to make it look like that so you could get the cards.
so if you play these best of 3 series for cards, get someone else in there with you from this board who has no favor in who would wn, and have him watch (if you can find someone, which i bet there is someone here who has the time to do it...if it is a big bet, both of you should give the "watcher" a card for...watching and being the only real proof you have).
so 3 screen names should be at that pool table. the 2 people playing, and a spectator.
aight, that all. c-ya.
Btw, no I didn't have a friend over. I was just trying to make a point about that.
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i said you could have made that up if you were trying to jip him out of the cards, but you didn't. that is good. but we have no proof that yanyak5 actually had a friend over. im not accusing him, either, i'm just saying...
okay, well, sorry for the confusion on that.
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