What's wrong with this picture? NGC mistake - CBH

zap1111

I got REAL excited about this one until I looked a bit closer. Unbelievable...
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Rampage

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I got REAL excited about this one until I looked a bit closer. Unbelievable...
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Well, I know nothing about Bust Halves, so I do not know the answer. However, based on the images, I do not think that coin is very appealing.

mozin

I don't know what Overton marriage this one is, but star 13 points wrong towards Miss Liberty, for it to be O-113.

78750Aggie

I'll venture a guess, the Stars appear to be wrong for this coin.

sinin1

date?

cointime

I would say normally right after the date - the next line is the grade.

zap1111

Mozin got it right - no surprise there.

If this were an AU50 1809 O.113 it would be a condition census coin, as I understand it. This is the rarest die marriage for 1809, a "tough R. 5" as they say. I snared a raw one on ebay a while back in the EF40 to AU 50 range, most likely lightly cleaned, and the experts were saying that it still could be worth more than two grand, easily. A slabbed AU50 for O.113 might hit close to five figures.

That's why my interest was piqued.

This coin is NOT an O.113. I think it might be an O.107 and maybe even a messed up one at that. I can't quite figure out what is going on with that reverse. I don't know where they got the 113. It might be an O.103 and this was just a typo on their part.

Any thoughts from the other bust half nuts?
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OKbustchaser

I don't know what it is either, but if someone pointed a gun at my head and said "Pick." I would guess 109a. After manipulating the pic considerably I can see (or at least imaginine that I see) the die crack through MERICA on the reverse.

This again stresses a point that I have brought up over and over--both here and ATS. Never depend on the TPG to get an Overton number right when considering a rare DM. It appears to me that at least 1 in 10 NGC Overton attributions that I have seen over the years are wrong. (although they seem to be getting much better on coins in the newer slabs.) Although I actually haven't seen that many PCGS Overton attributions of the few that I have seen in hand 1 of them was wrong. ANACS seems to get it right more often (about 95 % of the time), but even that is too low for a paid endorsement of fact--ie, it either is this die marriage or it isn't--rather than opinion, ie, a coin's grade.