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Highest price ever for a box bottom?

This 1985 Topps Walter Payton PSA 9 box bottom sold for $406. Granted it's only one of two PSA 9s but has anyone ever seen another box bottom sell for more? The only one I think would compete is a PSA 9 1985 OPC/Topps Mario Lemieux box card (a card, if I'm not mistaken, one of the board members owns).

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  • richtreerichtree Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭
    There has to be a Nolan Ryan or Cal Ripken that went for a big chunk, NO ?
    Buying:
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    1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”)
    81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat)
    91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭
    I've always really like the 85 topps football box bottoms. i've been looking for a decent Marino one for a while now. I think any box bottom would be tough to find in good condition. they usually have pretty bad surfaces.
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • onefasttalononefasttalon Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭
    Box bottoms are a REAL pain! Even for the over-produced stuff, they're a nightmare.

    I was lucky enough to score a PSA 9 on an '89 Fleer (Baseball) box bottom of Sabo.
    I cut it out myself, and submitted it.

    Who knows what I woulda paid for it on Ebay had someone else beat me to the punch... probably not $400+, but I wouldn't have hesitated to spend $150.

    Now... if someone scores that card in a PSA 10... well, let's just say I'd have to figure out how to keep the expense from the wife.




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  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭✭
    Not sure how they can grade these with no written standards on how to cut them?
    7 years later and I am still confused? The Payton looks like its cut outside the lines and the
    Sabo looks like its not but both have the 9 grade <scratching chin>
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  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not sure how they can grade these with no written standards on how to cut them?
    7 years later and I am still confused? The Payton looks like its cut outside the lines and the
    Sabo looks like its not but both have the 9 grade <scratching chin> >>



    It really varies. Some have lines, some don't and some only have lines on certain sides. The key is to leave some portion of the line(s) if they are there. If there aren't any lines, then the card needs to be cut to spec (2 1/2 x 3 1/2, +/- 1/32"). There's really no way for PSA or any other TPG to put a finite standard to the cutting practice as there are so many sheet, page, panel, strip, box bottom and other cards that can be hand cut and each has varying degrees of characteristics that cannot be easily defined or generally applied to the group as a whole.

    A simple rule of thumb is, if you're not sure, to find an example that has already been graded and take some clues from that...
  • ICE9ICE9 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I've always really like the 85 topps football box bottoms. i've been looking for a decent Marino one for a while now. I think any box bottom would be tough to find in good condition. they usually have pretty bad surfaces. >>



    Yeah, these are typically found with surface scratches (amongst other flaws)...gotta get a case fresh box!

    Here are my '85 Mario rookies...



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  • RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭
    Nice Lemieuxs. Are they OPC or Topps? And do you plan on cutting them?
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    Early Bazooka (Topps) came on box bottoms, Im sure the 1959 Mantle would bring far more than these modern cards.
  • I bought the 1985 Mario Lemieux PSA 9 box bottom about 3 years ago on EBAY for $400.00. The population report @ PSA has it at it's highest graded to date with the next closest one graded a Ex/mt 6 and maybe 5 total ever graded. It is truely the rarest Lemieux card out there. SMR featured some of my Lemieux collection a few years back in the April 2008 issue and the 1985 box bottom was in it. I have all of the GRADED signed Lemieux rookies on the Pop report for both the Topps ans OPC versions of his rookie in which they are all his first signature written in pen. Good luck with your collections!
  • RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭
    That's awesome that you own the only 9. I own a 5. It would have graded higher if not for what appears to be a factory crease but I was happy that it warranted a numerical grade and not just an "authentic".
  • That is cool that we are in a rare group of collectors that have the rare box bottoms of lemieux that are actually graded. I have yet to see the Lemieux box bottom in the Topps version in high grade for sale. My entire collection focuses on Lemieux how about yours?
  • TomiTomi Posts: 643 ✭✭✭
  • TomiTomi Posts: 643 ✭✭✭
    71 Bazooka Bobby Orr ungraded sold for $1800. Looked like a PSA 1.
  • tunahead08tunahead08 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭
    I still need to get this graded someday

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  • ICE9ICE9 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice Lemieuxs. Are they OPC or Topps? And do you plan on cutting them? >>



    Thanks RedHeart, they're both Topps. I've been planned on cutting & subbing since I bought them in 2000! image I just seem to be content with buying...at some point I"ll get off my but and follow through.
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  • RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭


    << <i>71 Bazooka Bobby Orr ungraded sold for $1800. Looked like a PSA 1. >>



    I don't doubt it. Those cards might be the hockey equivalent of the 1961 Topps Dice Game set.
  • TomiTomi Posts: 643 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>71 Bazooka Bobby Orr ungraded sold for $1800. Looked like a PSA 1. >>



    I don't doubt it. Those cards might be the hockey equivalent of the 1961 Topps Dice Game set. >>






    There is an SGC authentic 71 Bazooka Bobby Orr in the Heritage auction right now and is already over a grand. They are estimating it to be in the $8,000 range.
    Looking at the pop reports there is a PSA 7 out there. Wonder what that would bring.
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