Question on buying old cello packs

bziddy

Because I like wasting money opening old product and pulling o/c commons -- I've been eyeing some of the late 60s cellos that BBCE has, but I have a concern. I know that with old collation (even into more 'modern' stuff) you could reliably tell who was in a pack by looking at the top/bottom cards and checking the run/sequence. My question is, even if a Cello/rack pack is unopened, can't it be reasonably searched just based on sequences? Or was sequencing not as reliable an indicator in the older stuff?

thanks

gemint

As far as I know, there's no real sequence for the vintage stuff. The main issue is factory defects and the corners due to vintage cellos being so tightly wrapped.

bziddy

Thanks!

bking

Not strictly true. When I cracked my 70 cello the other night, jmoran was able to successfully predict a few possible card runs based on the front and back card.

jeffcbay

Also, with these packs you are REQUIRED to post a public rip when you open them!

Good luck!

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

If sequencing is a factor for this time frame, I'd assume they've been cherry picked by one of the numerous owners at least once. But maybe Steve bought some from a guy who had them since they were released..I'd email Steve and express your concerns. Maybe be has a whole box and looked at the sequencing (like he did for the 86 F wax box) and didn't notice anything out of place when he purchased them.

FredF

Sorry for bumping this old thread but I was about to ask a similar question. After what year does it make no sense to buy cello/rack packs unless in a sealed case? E.g. I assume that buying a 1985 Topps Baseball rack one will likely not get a Puckett, Clemens, or McGuire, because someone somewhere who knows the sequences has seen the pack. When did the sequencing really start? For those who have ripped a bunch of 70s or 80s unopened baseball or football sometime this century, does the wax damage costing you some cards offset the higher likelihood of stars in the packs (assuming wax has not been tampered with).

-Fred

Dodgerfanjohn

<< <i>Sorry for bumping this old thread but I was about to ask a similar question. After what year does it make no sense to buy cello/rack packs unless in a sealed case? E.g. I assume that buying a 1985 Topps Baseball rack one will likely not get a Puckett, Clemens, or McGuire, because someone somewhere who knows the sequences has seen the pack. When did the sequencing really start? For those who have ripped a bunch of 70s or 80s unopened baseball or football sometime this century, does the wax damage costing you some cards offset the higher likelihood of stars in the packs (assuming wax has not been tampered with).

-Fred >>



Probably. But maybe not everyone in the world is a turdbag either.

rtimmer

For 1985 topps I really don't think there is a reliable sequencing pattern. For years prior they commonly had a somewhat predictable sequence and certain cards show up in certain panels of rack packs but in 1985 that didn't hold true. You could find a Clemens or Puckett in any of the 3 panels.