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Question on Silver Chinese Panda's

There are several dates between 1989 - 2000 that have both Large and Small Date Varieties.

I can provide a list if needed.

Does anyone know which type is considered rarer each date?

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  • sbeverlysbeverly Posts: 962 ✭✭✭
    I can help. Please post a list.

    Of all those dates the 1999 large date is the rarest.
    There are 2 1999 large dates.

    In order of rarest to least

    1999 large date serif1
    1999 large date straight legs
    1999 small date
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is the list:

    1990 SMALL DATE
    1990 LARGE DATE

    1991 SMALL DATE
    1991 LARGE DATE

    1992 SMALL DATE
    1992 LARGE DATE

    1993 SMALL DATE
    1993 LARGE DATE

    1994 SMALL DATE
    1994 LARGE DATE

    1995 SMALL DATE 3 LEAF
    1995 LARGE DATE 3 LEAF
    1995 LARGE DATE 9 LEAF

    1996 SMALL DATE
    1996 LARGE DATE

    1997 SMALL DATE
    1997 LARGE DATE

    1998 SMALL DATE
    1998 LARGE DATE

    1999 SMALL DATE
    1999 LARGE DATE SERIF 1
    1999 LARGE DATE NO SERIF

    2000 FROSTY
    2000 MIRRORED - RARER VERSION

    I have my own opinions on which are rarer but would like others input on this.

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  • sbeverlysbeverly Posts: 962 ✭✭✭

    Hey GRANDAM,

    One question, Please define rarity as per this discussion.

    1-The lowest published mintages or,
    2-The hardest to find.

    For example the 1996 Silver Proof has a lower mintages than say either the 94 or 95 but, is
    more easily attainable at a lower price.

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  • sbeverlysbeverly Posts: 962 ✭✭✭

    If it's attainability some of these dates are so close that the rarity changes dependent to what becomes available to the market.
    For example: the 1990 small date at times brought a premium over the large date. When the small dates were pursued and dried up the large date had a higher premium.

    The following is my experience in putting together two complete Silver Panda sets

    That being said...

    1990 about the same

    1991-Large date

    1992- Large date

    1993-small date

    1994-small edge to the large date

    1995-This is a clear winner to the small twig small date- I had a tough time getting that one

    1996- about the same,

    1997-about the same

    1998-about the same

    1999-see the previous post. I was told recently that the straight leg version has recently brought a higher premium over the serif1 but this has not been my experience.

    2000-Mirror version though some have come available to the market in the last year. This brought $1500 at one time on ebay.
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My concern is with selling price? Which version's sell for more money? I have a complete set of PCGS MS69 Panda's and am now trying for both Large / Small Date Varieties.

    My own experience shows generally the Large Dates are harder to find with the exception of the 1994 the small date has eluded me.
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  • sbeverlysbeverly Posts: 962 ✭✭✭

    I started collecting them in 2004/05. They were very plentiful at that time as a bullion coin with bullion prices,

    Now, even on ebay they have become scarce. I guess that due to limited mintages and the popularity of the series even some of the more common ones
    are no longer common.

    Are you looking for an already graded 94? It will be harder to find in PCGS than NGC. It's my observation that there is a much larger inventory pool from NGC.
    If you are looking to buy raw, I have a couple of reputable Chinese sellers that I can recommend.

    There are 2 that I have purchased many Pandas from in the past and would have no hesitation
    buying from them again.

    As you most likely already know, you need to be wary of many/most of the Chinese sellers.
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  • sbeverlysbeverly Posts: 962 ✭✭✭
    Here is a US based Chinese seller. I have also bought from him. Very reputable....

    ebay link
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  • sbeverlysbeverly Posts: 962 ✭✭✭
    If you are looking to buy raw, the following is not a bad price, but I have seen better.

    ebay link

    I have no experience with this seller. I believe the Panda to be real based on the pattern of the plastic seal.

    You may be able to buy 2 to 3 raw ones for the price of a PCGS graded 69. The majority of these grade out 69 with NGC.
    I don't know about PCGS.
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks guys,

    I have actually done business with both the sellers referenced with no problems.

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