What's it Friday. Can you identify them? Post yours to identify too.
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This one seems like lead but is very thin. Back is blank.
No idea on this one.
This one has driven me nuts for years. I still have no ideas.
This one has just enough details to make it seem possible to identify.
Thanks,
Richard
Post some of your tough ones too.
No idea on this one.
This one has driven me nuts for years. I still have no ideas.
This one has just enough details to make it seem possible to identify.
Thanks,
Richard
Post some of your tough ones too.
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The capital letters in the first one form a chronogram: mivldicvvili = mdcllvvviiii = 1734 (though it looks like there is another date in exergue, can't fully make that out)
#2
Some kinda Irish/Hibernia token?
#3
I know I've seen that arm before, can't find anything online other than Zachary Taylor's family arms (which I'm pretty sure isn't it! )... I also seem to recall seeing it as a military insignia, but I'm braindead on what that may have been... (also not helpful!). I wonder if it was a uniform button, the mark on reverse seems to look like it was a button, whether it was made as such or later turned into one??
#4
Gotta be an Italian state... they tend to be crude, heavily circulated and clipped like that and I don't know of many other places that used horses on coins so often, plus there are a couple that have arms like that... I could be wrong though!
Well, that's a start
My wantlist & references
There are a large number of designs associated with these tokens with subtle differences between varieties listed in the Dalton & Hamer book (ex. number of strings in the harp, position of the head in relation to the legend, position of the cypher with the legend, etc). There are also a number of mules and contemporary counterfiets, both of which are collected alongside the commercial varieties.
Due to its current state it would be impossible to identify the exact D&H variety.
Collecting:
Conder tokens
19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=737021&AucID=538&Lot=2924
Yours is an obverse lead squeeze. Could have been made at any date.
I thought I'd seen that bust before and remembered seeing it on a medalic ducat, which I've found:
http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=754251&AucID=551&Lot=142
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The capital letters in the first one form a chronogram: mivldicvvili = mdcllvvviiii = 1734 (though it looks like there is another date in exergue, can't fully make that out) >>
The date in exergue says "ET 48 AN 1531"
At 48 years (of age) in 1531?
Obviously the 1734 date makes more sense than 1531.
Danish India, Tranquebar - denom? KM? $?
French India - ???
My wantlist & references
PMs are welcome if you can identify it for me.
The reference beneath his bust is to his age at his death; technically, "in his 48th year", in the year 1531.
Date? Evasion Money? Token? Counterstamp?
<< <i>A gift from Greg (aka - Savoy Special) - George Gordon's enigma.
Date? Evasion Money? Token? Counterstamp? >>
Date? 1770-something.
Evasion Money? Yes, I believe so.
Token? Well, if evasion money can be considered a token, yeah, I guess.
Counterstamp? Yep, there is definitely a counterstamp there. Don't ask me what it means, though.
Sorry for the cruddy pics!
That is South African AM: 122
There is a reference to it HERE on page 37.
I believe that is the same one...
Jim
edited to add: see page 73 also, it is rarer in bronze