I think I've just made a new discovery, HOLY MOLY!! Here's one for ya...

crazyhounddog

I can hardly believe my eyes!! I've taken this coin to a few shows thinking of trading up for a higher grade, never really looking at it to hard till recently. I showed this piece to a dealer at the Santa Clara show thinking of trading up, until he made me an offer that was just to high for the coin. After he made me the offer I took another look at this piece "with my old eyes" but could not see the attraction, but I could see a poker face on the dealer, I told him I would think about it, and walked off. To make a long story short I didn't sell the coin, in fact I forgot all about it till about a half hour ago.
I was imaging some of my old Buffalo nickels and came across this one again and snapped a couple of pictures of it and guess what I see? Along with some cool die cracks and a doubled looking date, is that an "s" over that D?? If it is folks it's the first one I've ever seen, in fact I've never even herd of such a thing? I hope I don't feel stupid after posting this. But it sure looks like an S over D...

coinkid855

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Looks like a mushy mint mark to me....




-Paul


Edited for grammar.

jessewvu

That's what I thought, mushy. Liberty is all mushy too.. Maybe a think planchet??

shorecoll

So to follow up a thread from yesterday(?). If the dealer had lowballed you you never would have known.

bfjohnson

I see something going on around the mintmark and can make out the S if I train the eye to do so.

joebb21

I definetly see what your saying, though I just dont think its strong enough.

I like the die crack though!

crazyhounddog

So to follow up a thread from yesterday(?). If the dealer had lowballed you you never would have known.
Probably....

crazyhounddog

I hope I don't feel stupid after posting this. But it sure looks like an S over D...


Here comes that feeling....

Casman

I see what your seeing as well, and it does look like an S, then again I'm losing my eyesight..

fcloud

I think it is just a worn out set of dies.

MERLINDAMADONE

that is the unknown rotated Indian Die - this could be a first!

Flatwoods

I think you should have taken the money and run.


















Just kidding.

sinin1

I see what you see, but


when the dies become that eroded, all of the periphery becomes mush


I am not sure what the dealer saw or wanted?
- very cool die crack through date
- slab ogh is collectible to many
- some people like eroded strikes with mushy coins

or he could have been trying to fill an order for someone
or he could of had the value wrong in his head?

coneca has a d/d listed

bfjohnson

If it is an overmark the the D is over the S at the top half and the S is over the D at the bottom.
I haven't studied a lot of varities but don't think that would fit with a couple strikes on the coin.

crazyhounddog

<< <i>I see what you see, but


when the dies become that eroded, all of the periphery becomes mush


I am not sure what the dealer saw or wanted?
- very cool die crack through date
- slab ogh is collectible to many
- some people like eroded strikes with mushy coins

or he could have been trying to fill an order for someone
or he could of had the value wrong in his head?

Yes I looked for the variety and saw the d/d. It's funny how a guy can swear he can see an S in there...Just thought I would share with the forum.

coneca has a d/d listed >>

BuffaloIronTail

It looks to be an RPM.

D/D

If Coneca lists an RPM........that's probably what it is.

Of course, I am not the final word........and not an expert.

But I see a D/D East.

Pete

sinin1

could the bottom half of the MM be a diebreak / cud ?

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Duane

I do see what you see. It looks to be an "S" over the "D" like you say, although mushy as noted.

And it may be my lack of understanding about RPMs, but I wonder how a S over D mark would happen for that particular year? (no San Fran Buffs minted that year)

Baley

I think he was trying to buy that little rainbow below the VE in "FIVE"



edited to add: my real opinion is a strong die clash broke the dies as well as transferred some details too, realone noticed the major clue first.
(well, the dealer you showed it too did, too) this is a very late die state, this might be the last coin struck from this pair. Neat coin!

PS: are the dies rotated? what degree?

DIMEMAN

That doesn't look like a d/d to me. I see the curves of an S in there.

ecichlid

The whole reverse is mush.

CaptHenway

Looks like simple die wear to me.
TD

dcarr

Die erosion.

jdillane

Good catch, Realone!

crazyhounddog

<< <i>Is it my imagination or do i see the date near the buffalos rump? Straight below "PLUR". >>



Super good eye , I didn't see that till you mentioned it...Thanks

WoodenJefferson

Extreme periphery eroded die, nothing more. Still a interesting Buffy.

crazyhounddog

<< <i>I do see what you see. It looks to be an "S" over the "D" like you say, although mushy as noted.

And it may be my lack of understanding about RPMs, but I wonder how a S over D mark would happen for that particular year? (no San Fran Buffs minted that year) >>



It is possible, in 1938 San Francisco didn't mint Buffalo nickels but there is a D/S mint mark. Sometimes the mint will barrow a die from another year " even with another branch mm" and stamp their mark over it, thus there could be a D/S for 1934...

CaptHenway

<< <i>Is it my imagination or do i see the date near the buffalos rump? Straight below "PLUR". >>



That is your imagination.
The date on a buffalo nickel is very high on the struck coin. That is why the dates tend to wear off.
Being very high on the coin means that the date is very, very deep in the die. When the obverse and reverse dies clash, the date on the obverse die is well removed from any contact with the reverse die.
TD