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1934 P Peace Dollar NEWP with a Crack in the planchet...Will it grade?.... UPDATED... GUESS THE GR

Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
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Here is my Cracked Planchet certainly nice in its own right but not nearly as nice as Broadstrucks!!! as far as cracks go.... image Sent this yesterday to PCGS....I am hoping for atleast a 63 grade... do you think it will make the grade with the crack in the planchet?

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UPDATE.... this coin just holdered.... Guess the grade
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here is my Cracked Planchet certainly nice in its own right but not nearly as nice as Broadstrucks!!! as far as cracks go.... image Sent this yesterday to PCGS....I am hoping for atleast a 63 grade... do you think it will make the grade with the crack in the planchet? >>



    Not Cracks... but just Laminations image
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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    You think?? Looks cracked to me just not cracked through.... your probably right. Do you think PCGS will lower the grade because of it?

    Tom
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You think?? Looks cracked to me just not cracked through.... your probably right. Do you think PCGS will lower the grade because of it?

    Tom >>



    Did you send it through as a Mint Error or just a regular submission image
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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    Just regular.... didn't want to pay the extra $$$ for something that may not be worth it.
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  • Marauderrt10Marauderrt10 Posts: 1,097 ✭


    << <i>Just regular.... didn't want to pay the extra $$$ for something that may not be worth it. >>

    well you just wasted money then because they will put it in a genuine holder. I would call up and pay the extra...
  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    You really think it will only get into a gennie holder?
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  • Marauderrt10Marauderrt10 Posts: 1,097 ✭


    << <i>You really think it will only get into a gennie holder? >>

    i would very much think so.
  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    image
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most Peace $1 laminations like the ones on this dollar I've seen are due to a planchet reaction from chemical exposure, not de-lamiantion due to planchet impurities.

    If it comes back in a Genuine Only holder it will be due to Altered Surfaces.
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  • FletcherFletcher Posts: 3,294 ✭
    It will slab in a Mint Error - Lamination holder, not in a Genuine holder (at least not because of the lamination) ... here is an actual cracked planchet:

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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    Nice Fugio!! Well, I sent it in with the free 8 coupon so we will see what the "experts" think.
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  • FletcherFletcher Posts: 3,294 ✭
    I would like to hear what a peace dollar expert thinks. They tone so much differently than other silver coins that it makes me think that there may have been some unusual silver alloy mix used. I wonder how common such laminations are on peace dollars.
  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    This coin actually looks much better in hand. I took some quick pics for the friday peace dollar thread yesterday and I wanted some different opinions on the coin. I was always told coming up that you grade the planchet and you grade the strike and luster. You don't bodybag a coin because of a planchet flaw, damage YES...flaws no..

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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    Just got the grade back from PCGS on this dollar.... Can anybody guess the grade?
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  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭
    Is this the most "cultured coin in the world"?image
    Paul
  • deviousdevious Posts: 1,690 ✭
    I'm going to guess a 65 based on them images. Maybe they were forgiving of the error. image But otherwise, high end 64 fo' sho!
  • kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is this the most "cultured coin in the world"? >>



    Beat me to it
  • TheRavenTheRaven Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭✭
    That looks really nice I would guess MS-64
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    G.O. image
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Retained lamination.

    I don't know how PCGS handles such coins, but I view them as defective and, if it were my decision, would put them in a "Genuine" holder.
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  • gummibeargummibear Posts: 786 ✭✭✭
    Here's one I wish I didn't let go of. Pardon the old pics.
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    Richard

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice character on that gold.

    Since I'm new, my WAG is MS65
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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    PCGS Graded this one MS 63... I was a believe whole heartedly that this coin should be in a 64 holder. It is super clean and the only thing holding it back IMHO is that lamination. If regraded under the error service it may get a 64 grade.


    Tom
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  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    It is interesting to note that while you now believe the coin should have been a 64, in the original post you were hoping for a 63.
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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    I agree with you.... I was hoping for a 63 and that was my first guess but a 4 sure would have been nice and Honestly the coin is all there except for the lamination/crack. I am glad it got into a holder after hearing everyone tell me that I should have sent it in under the error category.

    Tom
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What does the holder say exactly? >>



    Realone, Nothing... as they don't speak yet, but watch that's next when PCGS announces The Monster! image
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  • brokenCCbrokenCC Posts: 319
    just little bigger crack and it'll be like ours
  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What does the holder say exactly? >>



    It says MS-63 exactly
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am surprised they graded it since it has a plachet flaw (lamination), which normally would get bagged.
  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    Planchet flaws are apart of the planchet and in my opinion should never be bodybagged. They are apart of the way the coin was struck and is not damage.
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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


    << <i>just little bigger crack and it'll be like ours >>



    Very nice indeed!!
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