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IbnemoIbnemo Posts: 70 ✭
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Hello Folks, I’ve been a long time lurker enjoying your expertise and opinion. I’ve learned more from these boards than any other source, with few exceptions. Just wanted to say thanks. That being said would anyone care to give a grade on this peace dollar I think I just ate. Ouch Ouch Ouch. Avertised as flawless, MS+++ Etc. No returns of coarse. Stupid Me. Live and Learn. Thanks in advance. image
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Harshly cleaned!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    .....YIKES! but welcome anyway. WOW you been 'hovering' for quite a while. image no need to be shy! image
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  • chucknrachucknra Posts: 310
    VERY badly cleaned. Welcome!
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  • stinkinlincolnstinkinlincoln Posts: 2,733 ✭
    Welcome to the boards, may the force be with you.




    Harshly cleaned like mentioned, maybe with some brillo...Or a belt sander and 80grit paper...
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ....by the way. i don't think it is completely flawed! the staples look mint state! just kidding. hey, we ALL have been there!image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • IbnemoIbnemo Posts: 70 ✭
    Thanks for the welcome, your input and help. You folks are a kick. I’m going to try the e-bay/pay-pal buyer protection. I wasn’t the only one to get burned. He was on a roll for a few days. Thanks again.
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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    bad coin
    very bad coin
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for the welcome, your input and help. You folks are a kick. I’m going to try the e-bay/pay-pal buyer protection. I wasn’t the only one to get burned. He was on a roll for a few days. Thanks again. >>




    .....hope you get satisfaction. image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • phehpheh Posts: 1,588 ✭
    SNAD ASAP.
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    how did it taste?

    welcome to the board.
    LCoopie = Les
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why do people ask how deep is the water after they have jumped in?
    Hope you can recover your moneyimage
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165 ✭
    No matter that the seller stated "No returns".

    You still can get your money back because it is definitely NOT as described.

    Contact ebay first then if need be, contact PayPal.

    You will get a refund whether the seller likes it or not!
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
    as boom said. its your money and more then likely hard earned, file a claim as nsad. get a decent one friend image
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>No matter that the seller stated "No returns".

    You still can get your money back because it is definitely NOT as described.

    Contact ebay first then if need be, contact PayPal.

    You will get a refund whether the seller likes it or not! >>



    ....sounds great!
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    Yeah that coins a pos, I would demand a refund. And you should out the seller, so we all can avoid auctions from them.
    If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?
  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    Study the mintmark area and make sure that it is not a 1928-S with a mintmark removed. When a coin is messed up that badly, I get a little suspicious that it was done intentionally to hide something like a removed mintmark.
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  • MercuryMercury Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭
    Like others have said, that coin is bad news.

    Many of us have done the same kind of thing when getting started, make sure you learn the lesson now. I know I did.

    Good luck in the refund.

    Welcome.
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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Have Fun imageimage
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  • bluelobsterbluelobster Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭
    Holy Cow, this is an event that only happens once every seven years image

    I commend you for your very judicious posting!
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image Hello and welcome...
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  • robecrobec Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since it's not slabbed, what's to keep the seller from saying that this wasn't the coin he sold? How can you prove it is the same. Hopefully you have pics other than the set you posted to prove it's the same coin.

    - Bob -

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That was a good lesson..Now please post the real coin you bought.
    I just don't believe you bought that coin.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ....he won't post again for another 9 years. image
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  • IbnemoIbnemo Posts: 70 ✭
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=220559936726&amp;ru=http://coins.shop.ebay.com:80/i.html?_nkw=220559936726&_sacat=253&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_dmpt=Coins_US_Individual&_odkw=&_osacat=253&_fvi=1&amp;_rdc=1

    E-Bay Item # 220559936726

    Hope one are the other works,image
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Auction Link
    My Current project....https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/mysetregistry/album/160794
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does not look like the same coin. He actully says it's a MS63 this guy is out to lunch.
    File a SNAD claim.
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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like you joined some time ago... Welcome back?

    I'd definitely try to get my money back... good luck!
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  • DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭
    eGads! imageimage

    I agree with the other posters who thank you for sharing. SNAD if it was an eBay purchase. Otherwise, lesson learned the hard way. image
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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Recent bad feedback saying he shipped different coins, buying a raw coin off ebay from a seller called "lets roll a few", going off what looks to be a stock photo. What made you trust this guy?image------------------BigE
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  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You got robbed - I'd file a claim no matter the effort it takes. Their feedback is speaking loud and it appears they have a bidder working with them.
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  • JazzmanJABJazzmanJAB Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Does not look like the same coin.

    image
    Your coin looks like it was scraped across the street. Sorry. I would get my $$$ back.

    and

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  • IbnemoIbnemo Posts: 70 ✭
    I bought the coin prior to his first negative feed back. He was 100% . But you are right, that photo did look stock. Note to self, do not drink and buy coins.image
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  • IbnemoIbnemo Posts: 70 ✭


    << <i>Auction Link >>



    Thanks LindeDad. I'm working on it.
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You have been defrauded, that's not the same coin for sure.
    If you used a credit card you have recourse, if there is a problem with the SNAD claim(there shouldn't be)

    Welcome to the forum!
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First of Welcome to the forum!

    My hat is off to you Nemo! I would, no I did not, start my collection with a MS state
    Key Date coin. (at least it was described as such).
    Perhaps you are not new to collecting. Regardless that was a good buy off ebay, just
    went wrong.
    You may want to ask the seller if he sent the wrong coin as the one you have does not
    meet the description in any way shape or form. Be nice, don't call names or threaten
    as Ebay will read your communications when you have to file a NOT AS DECRIBED claim.

    If you looked at his feedback and read a few you may have gotten a clue that he was
    not of a full deck. This may be in your favor as two negatives address this exact problem.
    (did not read your post about his 100% feedback).

    So, be nice to ebay, paypal and the seller and you'll get your money back. Just make sure
    you point out the obvious scam that he's trying to pull off.

    Regardless, welcome and good luck!
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Moral of the story,,,,,,,,

    NEVER buy anything from a seller with a handle of: letsrollafew image

    He probably smoked a few that he just rolled before writing the description of this coin. image

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  • mikeygmikeyg Posts: 1,002 ✭







    MS63?? the seller must have been in an altered state of conscienceness.
  • TexasNationalsTexasNationals Posts: 3,837 ✭
    Tell them you want to return it, no, call the BBB, nothing, spread it with the pics over the internet. I may even go as far par dor an ad in coin world with a pic, item description and company. Make sure you get a repected grading compabies opinion. This has got to stop and as long as this happens to newbies and others it never will. ANA, PNG and so on memberships or lack of seem to do nothing.
  • kurtdogkurtdog Posts: 1,456


    << <i>Auction Link >>

    If that's the auction link that seriously does not appear to be the same coin and you appear to have been the victim of a cruel bait and switch job. I sincerely hope you find some recourse.
  • kurtdogkurtdog Posts: 1,456
    Let me add a precaution. Steer clear of them when they can't communicate any better than in run-on sentences like this...

    HERE WE HAVE UP FOR AUCTION A 1928 PEACE DOLLAR THIS COIN IS BEAUTIFUL LOTS OF LUSTER WOULD GRADE VERY HIGH THE PICTURES LOOK GOOD BUT DOESNT DO THIS COIN JUSTICE HAPPY BIDDING AND GOODLUCK THANKS.WILL SHIP WITH INSURANCE ADDED THIS COIN IN MY JUDGEMENT WOULD GRADE IN THE MID MS RANGE ITS A RARE ONE.IM NOT A PRO JUDGER BUT THIS IS THE BEST ONE IVE SEEN BEEN IN THE COIN BUSINESS ALONG TIME KNOW A GOOD ONE WHEN I SEE IT.

    On Feb-20-10 at 20:15:29 PST, seller added the following information:
    THE CONDITION THIS COIN IS IN WOULD PUT THIS COIN IN THE HIGH MS RANGE ON GRADE IM NOT A PROFESSIONAL BUT I KNOW THIS IS FLAWLESS AND BY THE 2010 GRADING BOOK ITS IN THAT RANGE SO IN MY OPINION MS-63+++
  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If that is the auction, then you did not get the coin you bid on and eBay should protect you. Open the case asap. Let us know resolution.
  • IbnemoIbnemo Posts: 70 ✭
    You Folks have been terrific in your input and help. I’m not a talkative kind of person on the computer. My spelling is probably the main reason. Grammar follows close behind. So I run everything thru a word processor before I post. Technology can even make me seam somewhat literate. I’m a little lexdixik, and have a hint of DDA. Where was I, Oh Ya, Anyway I took everyone’s advice and opened a claim with E-Bay and Pay-Pal. As far as the coin switch thing, NOT. But good point! My word against His? Hell of a scam. But that is not my style. I’m straight up, that’s my style. I’ll let you know the outcome as some members have requested. I will not wait 7 years to post again I promise. NEMO
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  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165 ✭
    Good for you! image

    Look at the listing. Right in the middle of the page is an emblem referencing ebay's Buyer Protection Plan.

    Since he (or she) went out on a limb and made the claims he did, plain & simple the item is NOT as described.

    Should be no problem, especially with the pictures you've taken of what was actually sent.

    It's unfortunate that many sellers see eBay as a venue to dump undesirables on the unsuspecting.

    Good Luck! image
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  • IbnemoIbnemo Posts: 70 ✭
    Please return the item to the seller.
    Once we have delivery and signature confirmation that the item has been
    delivered, we'll refund you for the cost of the item plus original
    shipping within 3 days .

    image

    A Big Thumbs Up for E-bay. And a big thumbs upimage for this forum. Thanks to all that pushed me along.
    I'm a hourly working man and that was allot of money. Thanks Again.
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    did you buy a coin from
    letsrollafew= seller??

    even his name is suspicious, and not well thought out.
    LCoopie = Les
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cripes! What a loser. letsrollafew has rolled a few too many.

    You'll win this and get your money back. And the lesson learned will not be soon forgotten.

    A lot of guys on this forum know the tricks to buying raw. Until you learn them don't spend big money on anything not in a legitimate TPG slab.

    Welcome to the boards, Ibnemo!
    Lance.
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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Harsh cleaning and scratched.
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