HK-157 Columbian Exposition in white metal...

AUandAG

This is in coin orientation not medal orientation. Is this unusual? I've seen dozens of
this HK-157 and all have been medal orientation. This is the only coin orientation I've seen.
Anyone else have or seen one?
bob

AUandAG

Whaaaa, did everyone give up on So-called dollars so quickly??


Anyone out there??

Hellllloooooooooooo?

bob

coinkat

Unfortunately, some of us never really got started-

terrific example

speety

PM Tmot99 and ask him. He'll know better than anyone else here imho

jmj3esq

I dont understand what you are asking. Are you refering to the size of the thing?

Barndog

<< <i>I dont understand what you are asking. Are you refering to the size of the thing? >>



Reverse Orientations

With modern coins there are two types of the orientation of the reverse:

* 'Coin' orientation, where the reverse is upside down when you turn the coin sideways.
* 'Medal' orientation, where the reverse is upright when you turn the coin sideways.

Modern US 'silver' coins use the 'coin' orientation, as do most UK copper coins prior to 1825 (1826 for farthings) and silver or gold up until 1887.

Modern UK coins after the above dates use 'medal' orientation, as do many earlier proofs.

source

coinsarefun

<< <i>Whaaaa, did everyone give up on So-called dollars so quickly??


Anyone out there??

Hellllloooooooooooo?

bob >>










I always love a good SCD
Yours is very nice !!


Oh.................btw the orientation should be

jmj3esq

Is see what he's talking about now. Thanks Barndog.

Sorry, no answer to the original question.

crazyhounddog

What in the heck is white metal anyways?

AUandAG

<< <i>What in the heck is white metal anyways? >>



Inexpensive pot metal is another name. Not silver, not aluminum (I think) and certainly not platinum!
bob

keets

White Metal and Tin are often synonymous when speaking of SC$'s. the aforementioned "Pot Metal" seems likely with some, particularly the 20th Century issues. i have always assumed White Metal to be tin, though, and the use of that alloy seemed to stop around 1920 or so. i think that by that time aluminum was in wide use and became a better alternative.

BTW, Stephanie, i've never understood why NGC didn't like that example.

crazyhounddog

<< <i>White Metal and Tin are often synonymous when speaking of SC$'s. the aforementioned "Pot Metal" seems likely with some, particularly the 20th Century issues. i have always assumed White Metal to be tin, though, and the use of that alloy seemed to stop around 1920 or so. i think that by that time aluminum was in wide use and became a better alternative.

BTW, Stephanie, i've never understood why NGC didn't like that example. >>


Thank you for the input...I wonder if it would get rusty? I suppose it would if not properly stored and got damp...I don't think I would want white metal in my collection....Just doesnt seem like a desirable alloy...

keets

White Metal doesn't rust, iron and iron alloys rust. Tin doesn't rust, quite the opposite it is used to inhibit rust since it is very oxidation resistant. Pewter is referenced a few times in the book So-Called Dollars as a planchet type; Pewter is about 90% Tin alloyed with Copper and doesn't rust, but it suffers a fate known as tin-pest which is black spot oxidation and a very nasty thing indeed.

medals made of Tin/Pewter/White Metal shouldn't tone but since they are alloys and contain other metals they will sometimes tone. they might also tone if they get dipped and the dip isn't completely rinsed of, much like silver.

crazyhounddog

<< <i>White Metal doesn't rust, iron and iron alloys rust. Tin doesn't rust, quite the opposite it is used to inhibit rust since it is very oxidation resistant. Pewter is referenced a few times in the book So-Called Dollars as a planchet type; Pewter is about 90% Tin alloyed with Copper and doesn't rust, but it suffers a fate known as tin-pest which is black spot oxidation and a very nasty thing indeed.

medals made of Tin/Pewter/White Metal shouldn't tone but since they are alloys and contain other metals they will sometimes tone. they might also tone if they get dipped and the dip isn't completely rinsed of, much like silver. >>



I learn sommething new here everyday...Thanks