1807 half dollar; O-111 R6, O-113 small stars, or a new variety? Can we debate this one again?

coin22lover

Not long ago, I made a post about this coin and the opinions went from O-111 R6 to O-113 small stars. This coin is driving me nuts; maybe it's wishful thinking, I don't know... I will admit the reverse has every feature of the O-113 small stars, with the positioning of certain letters and the 50 - C - arrows spacing. But the obverse seems to clearly have Large, well formed stars! The missing left base of the first 1 in the date clearly rules out the two most common varieties. I had really planned on selling the coin, but I can't quite bring myself to do so until I find out for sure....I wonder if I have a new variety here?

AngryTurtle

Dont know anything about CBH attribution but some speculation on the stars -
Stars are tapered so depending on wear and how deeply punched into the die will have differing widths. Is it possible that the stars are small, but look big because of this?

JRocco

Your coin looks to be a small stars variety to my eyes.
The stars are just well worn.
Here are some comparison pics to my 1807 small stars

fishteeth

definitely a small stars. The stars are too far from the edge to be a large star.
I think the large ammount of wear is making the stars look larger
here is a small stars and a large stars


Large stars



small stars

coin22lover

Hmmm, I may be overcoming my wishful thinking at this point. If anyone else has any thoughts, please chime in.

jdillane

Small stars....no debate necessary. Still had to have been exciting to think you had an R6....

Lewy

Coin22lover, maybe the easiest way to prove this to yourself is to look at star #13.....On the 113, the lower, innermost star point is pointing 'at' the hair curls. On all stages of 111, that same star point will point 'below' the hair curls.
(Your coin has all of the attributes of 113, and nothing differing from 113).