Crossovers

TheRifleman

I have a bunch of NGC coins that I am considering sending to PCGS to grade. Does anyone have any extensive experience with crossovers?? What I am curious about is what kind of % you have experienced crossing at the same grade vs. a grade level down vs. more than 1 grade level down?? I have to indicate on the submission form if I am willing to accept a lower grade and indicate how low I am willing to go. How do you guys normally handle this?

TheRifleman

I forgot to mention that most of the coins are Bust Halves

deltadimeman

i would not try to cross ngc bust halves ! pcgs will downgrade just about every coin by one or two grades ! the bust halves in the early fatty ngc holders may cross or upgrade, just depends on the coin.

Bochiman

Grade the coins, without the slabs, and then you may have an idea.
There are some series that NGC may be tougher in, while in others, they may be lighter.

So, for the NGC coins in question, do YOU know the series and how to grade? Do YOU agree with the NGC grades? Have you seen similarly graded PCGS examples and how did you grade them compared to PCGS?

For me, with IHC/Lincolns, I am probably 75% on crossovers. 100% the first time and not quite that after. I disagree with a couple, but it is what it is.
I don't do bust halves, so I can't speak directly for them, just the crossover experience.

When I submit for crossovers, I do NOT crack out (then, they are not crossover, but are raw), but doing that, you take a chance on a "genuine" or lower grade.
For the coins I have, I put cross at same grade (or the implied "higher"). If you are comfortable with a step down, then you can do that. Some PCGS coins sell for more a full grade below NGC's grade. Again, it is up to YOU on how well you know the series/grades of the coins.

mozin

Let's make it simple for circulated Busties, expect about one in five NGC Busties to cross at the same grade. Expect one in three to cross at a grade lower. The rest will remain in NGC holders forever. Sorry, those are the facts, as I know them.

lkeigwin

Gotta agree with that. Though Ron's thoughts are definitely on target.
Lance.

TheRifleman

thanks to everyone for your thoughts - it is very helpful to have a better idea of what to expect.

Scott

chucknra

Make sure you let us know the results if you do decide to cross.