Is this a Milton Bradley Nolan ryan Rookie?

italianstallionyankees · February 21, 2010 1:01PM

Link 1968 topps Nolan ryan Rookie

I was not home during this auction and missed out on the bidding. The card in my opinion is very eye appealing. Is this a Milton Bradley?

KbKards · February 21, 2010 1:06PM

yes

italianstallionyankees · February 21, 2010 1:08PM

That's what i thought . Pretty decent deal imo for the price.

bobbyw8469 · February 21, 2010 1:08PM

Yes...sure is! Someone got a steal! Seems to be the norm with Ebay auctions nowadays.....buyers stealing from sellers....that's why you see an overabundance of BIN's......

italianstallionyankees · February 21, 2010 1:13PM

Well It was listed incorrectly in my experience with Andy Madec he seems not very knowledgeable to me.

Ryan

ElToroLoco · February 21, 2010 2:11PM

What makes it the Milton Bradley? The left border?

bking · February 21, 2010 2:15PM

<< What makes it the Milton Bradley? The left border? >>

The bright yellow back, IIRC.

minnesotahusker · February 21, 2010 3:28PM

Can you give me some insight on what is special about the Milton Bradley card? thanks

earlycalguy · February 21, 2010 3:34PM

you'd think Madec would know as he was a grader for psa. but psa does not recognize this version as a variation.

mlbfan2 · February 21, 2010 3:39PM

Here's a description from a 2007 Heritage auction.

For years, advanced collectors were aware of color variations on the card backs among 1968 Topps baseball cards. Few, however, were aware of their source. The cards have their origin in a 1969 game from Milton Bradley titled "Win-A-Card," a trading card board game. Included in the game are 132 cards, comprised of the following: 76 1968 Topps Baseball cards, 33 1967 Topps Football cards and 22 1965 Topps Hot Rod cards, plus an instruction card. All of the cards were printed on a single sheet and fortunately for collectors, include not only the Nolan Ryan rookie card and several other Hall of Famers (Brooks Robinson, Tom Seaver, Ed Mathews, Rod Carew, Gaylord Perry, Bob Gibson, Hank Aaron), but also the yellow-team variations of Ed Brinkman and Casey Cox. The football cards also include the set's most expensive card, the 1967 Topps Joe Namath as well as cards for Hall of Famers Nick Buoniconti, Buck Buchanan, Fred Biletnikoff and Ron Mix. The cards all have a background on their reverse sides which is yellow versus the normal orange or gold. As these scarce variations become more widely recognized, it is reasonable to think that the difference in values between the regular-issue cards and the MB game cards will widen significantly. The game is fully intact, and while the box shows some signs of aging including staining; the cards are still sealed in their original state after all these years.

italianstallionyankees · February 21, 2010 3:42PM

True. My plans was subbing to Bvg . They put the variation on the flip. It would bring somewhere between $250 or so if Bvg graded it and put the variation on the flip.

WinPitcher · February 21, 2010 6:53PM

<< THIS CARD GRADES IN GOOD TO VERY GOOD CONDITION. THIS CARD HAS 3 SURFACE WRINKLES AND LIGHT CORNER WEAR. >>

Was it really such a steal?

Steve

bobbyw8469 · February 21, 2010 8:58PM

I think it was.....once it gets tagged the Milton Bradley variation....

lsutigers1973 · February 21, 2010 11:33PM

<< I think it was.....once it gets tagged the Milton Bradley variation.... >>

Multiple creases and soft corners probably makes it a 2 or 2.5 at best. Value of a BGS 2-2.5 is only about $100-150.

bobbyw8469 · February 22, 2010 12:46AM

<< Multiple creases and soft corners probably makes it a 2 or 2.5 at best. Value of a BGS 2-2.5 is only about $100-150. >>

Are you valuing the REGULAR version in a 2-2.5 or the MILTON BRADLEY version in a 2-2.5?????

lsutigers1973 · February 22, 2010 12:54AM

Last BVG 3.5 Milton Bradley sold for $258 about a month ago and a 4.5 sold for $292.

WinPitcher · February 22, 2010 3:09AM

Bobby

If Andy Madec (or any full time dealer for that matter) thought he could get more money having that card attributed as a MB variety I'm pretty sure

he/they would have done so. It is my opinion that he purposely titled this card as he did so some people would think

that they would be getting a bargain.

After grading and shipping and any bells and whistles how much do you see this card selling for?

I think the buyer got what he paid for. The card is a nice looking 2 or 2.5 I will say that, but it won't grade

as the 5 that it looks like.

Of course this is only my opinion other people may have a differing one.

Steve

itzagoner · February 22, 2010 3:15AM

Andy Madec has been in this business for a very long time.

trust me, he's not unintelligent or uninformed.

EchoCanyon · February 22, 2010 3:17AM

<< Bobby

If Andy Madec (or any full time dealer for that matter) thought he could get more money having that card attributed as a MB variety I'm pretty sure

he/they would have done so. It is my opinion that he purposely titled this card as he did so some people would think

that they would be getting a bargain.

After grading and shipping and any bells and whistles how much do you see this card selling for?

I think the buyer got what he paid for. The card is a nice looking 2 or 2.5 I will say that, but it won't grade

as the 5 that it looks like.

Of course this is only my opinion other people may have a differing one.

Steve >>

I totally agree with your opinion.

earlycalguy · February 22, 2010 5:03AM

I had a PSA 4 Ryan Milton Bradley - not labeled as such and sold for $200. so a bit over the going rate of a regular version.

jimq112 · February 22, 2010 6:25AM

I think I paid about $250 or so for this 5, not labeled as MB. It's not a real nice 5

italianstallionyankees · February 22, 2010 7:51AM

<< Andy Madec has been in this business for a very long time.

trust me, he's not unintelligent or uninformed. >>

Dear italianstallionyankees,

Hi,
No, it was just the normal Topps 1968 rookie card. The Milton Bradley card is much different, black and white and much smaller. Thanks for your inquiry...

- andymadec

For those that think Andy is very informed dealer Imho in dealing with him he doesn't know as much as you think he should know.... I am not bashing him I am just giving my own personal opinion of the guy. Others will disagree with this and others will agree with me , to make the decision your self of knowing him .

Ryan

Edited to add the Ebay Message from this Afternoon

SDSportsFan · February 22, 2010 8:00AM

<< 

<< Andy Madec has been in this business for a very long time.

trust me, he's not unintelligent or uninformed. >>

Dear italianstallionyankees,

Hi,
No, it was just the normal Topps 1968 rookie card. The Milton Bradley card is much different, black and white and much smaller. Thanks for your inquiry...

- andymadec

For those that think Andy is very informed dealer Imho in dealing with him he doesn't know as much as you think he should know.... I am not bashing him I am just giving my own personal opinion of the guy. Others will disagree with this and others will agree with me , to make the decision your self of knowing him .

Ryan

Edited to add the Ebay Message from this Afternoon >>

Well, Milton Bradley did issue small, black and white sets in 1969, 1970 and 1972, as parts of board games. These cards are listed in the Standard Catalog. They measure from 2" x 3", to 2 3'8" x 3 1/2". These are the Milton Bradley cards most people are familiar with.

Steve

itzagoner · February 22, 2010 8:12AM

could be a misunderstanding or he really doesn't know......well, ya learn something new every day, perhaps Andy will too.

italianstallionyankees · February 22, 2010 8:18AM

<< 

<< 

<< Andy Madec has been in this business for a very long time.

trust me, he's not unintelligent or uninformed. >>

Dear italianstallionyankees,

Hi,
No, it was just the normal Topps 1968 rookie card. The Milton Bradley card is much different, black and white and much smaller. Thanks for your inquiry...

- andymadec

For those that think Andy is very informed dealer Imho in dealing with him he doesn't know as much as you think he should know.... I am not bashing him I am just giving my own personal opinion of the guy. Others will disagree with this and others will agree with me , to make the decision your self of knowing him .

Ryan

Edited to add the Ebay Message from this Afternoon >>

Well, Milton Bradley did issue small, black and white sets in 1969, 1970 and 1972, as parts of board games. These cards are listed in the Standard Catalog. They measure from 2" x 3", to 2 3'8" x 3 1/2". These are the Milton Bradley cards most people are familiar with.

Steve >>

Good point Steve... I was thinking the same thing when Andy messaged me. He is confused with the Milton Bradley game that had the B&W cards . I didn't message him back to tell him he was wrong though...

Imo the buyer of the card got a good deal to me the back was clean and the card was pretty centered on top of that. The eye appeal was great . Would have probably graded 3-4 or somewhere in between. Still the buyer did pretty well for the variation

fkw · February 22, 2010 11:20AM

Your average Topps collector really doesnt care much about the bright back MB cards.

If it were an actual design variation (or at least a completely different color, ie Pink or Blue) it would have a higher demand and more interest by the average Topps Collector. IMO

Im sure there are many still mixed in older sets/collections still waiting to be "discovered".

Is this a Milton Bradley Nolan ryan Rookie?

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