Thoughts on this '60 Yaz/ particularly the back-Grades & SCANS UPDATE

leadoff4 · February 8, 2010 10:23AM

What do you guys think this '60 Yaz will grade? There is a slight bid of fading on the back. You can barely read his name on the back. His name should be in the "natural" tone of the card stock(grey) anyway. This is going in on my freebie sub. Wish me luck. I'd love for it to be a 7. Didn't get the 7 I'd hoped for. They were generous on a couple of these and rather strict on a couple, so I guess it all evens out... or does it??
1 1 16422372 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 TOPPS 148 CARL YASTRZEMSKI ROOKIE STAR Card US
2 1 16422373 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 TOPPS 564 WILLIE MAYS ALL STAR Card US
3 1 16422374 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 TOPPS 480 YOGI BERRA Card US
4 1 16422375 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 TOPPS 300 HANK AARON Card US
5 1 16422376 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 TOPPS 343 SANDY KOUFAX Card US

hammered · February 8, 2010 10:31AM

I don't think they'll discount too much for the blurry name - I've sent in cards with obvious problems on the reverse and they always seem to get 9s.
That card has a lot of print marks, though. I'd say 6, maybe 7 on a good day.

nam812 · February 8, 2010 10:58AM

Could be a 6, 6.5, or 7. Nice looking Yaz.

leadoff4 · February 8, 2010 11:00AM

I think a lot of the Yaz cards have numerous print spots and a lot have still received 7s.

otwcards · February 8, 2010 11:57AM

Great looking card, but I'm afraid that may have been soaked out of an album and may result in a PSA 2-4 grade as a result of whatever is going on on the reverse.

RonBurgundy · February 8, 2010 12:13PM

PSA 6. Yaz.

DavidPuddy · February 8, 2010 12:28PM

<< <i>PSA 6. Yaz. >>

itzagoner · February 8, 2010 12:32PM

leadoff4 · February 8, 2010 9:00PM

OTW... good observation but I hope not.

Sportsamerica · February 8, 2010 9:19PM

<< <i>Great looking card, but I'm afraid that may have been soaked out of an album and may result in a PSA 2-4 grade as a result of whatever is going on on the reverse. >>

Do you have any other 60's to compare against? I think it might come back as Altered.... I hope you get a 6 or better..

leadoff4 · February 8, 2010 10:26PM

Sportsamerica, it looks the same as other '60s cards except for the fading on the back. It's going in this week as one of my freebies so I should know the grade in a couple of weeks. If it was soaked out of an album they sure did a good job!

itzagoner · February 8, 2010 11:09PM

rest easy Neal.....i've seen cards like that from 1960 Topps with the faded backs.....they ain't pretty, but i don't think your Yaz was altered or saved from an album.....with no qualifiers, that card is a purty nice looking lock PSA 6, maybe better if the wine is flowing in the grading room that day.

RonBurgundy · February 8, 2010 11:43PM

If the cardboard stock isn't warped, then the card is fine. The faded backs are not uncommon on 60's, I've seen them worse than that.

That said, the card's likely a 6 due to the T/B centering. It may be within variance for a 7, but they won't view it as such for a Yaz RC, particularly with the back the way it is.

leadoff4 · February 9, 2010 12:46AM

I appreciate the info. guys. RonB, the cardstock isn't warped. I see it as having 1 NM-MT corner, 1 NM corner, 1 EX-MT corner, 1 NM/EX-MT corner. It probably is a 6... but good lookin' one. I never realized how many '60 cards are OC until I started doing the set.

Topps29 · February 10, 2010 2:24AM

How did you fair from PSA with the raw cards sent from your older collector friend?

leadoff4 · February 19, 2010 5:55AM

Bump for some poppage.

RonBurgundy · February 19, 2010 7:42AM

Good stuff. At least they didn't hammer you.

fiveniner · February 19, 2010 8:22AM

The second series cards of 1960 are very common for have balck blemishes on them especially the rookie cards you would get a 6 or 6.5 due to centering.It also appears to be slightly diamond cut at the bottom.

SidePocket · February 19, 2010 8:25AM

Let's see scans of the other cards.

toothshucker · February 19, 2010 9:00AM

I would have guessed 8 PD- 50/50 side to side & 30/70 top bottom centering, 2/4 solid & 2/4 fuzzy corners, deep color, significant printers spots particularly on Carl's face. All in all you avoided the qualifier kiss of death- and a 6 is more appealing than a 8 PD because of this. Still a great card.