Madden Picks The Saints
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From what I understand this is actually meaningful information.
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It's also worth noting that the simulation featured a healthy Dwight Freeney.
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It's also worth noting that the simulation featured a healthy Dwight Freeney.
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Surprising to me that the Saints still win even with a healthy Dwight Freeney causing havoc.
The one time it proved wrong was when the team it picked missed what should have been the winning field goal.
Nuff said!
GEAUX SAINTS!
<< <i>It's worth noting that 3 of those 5 Super Bowls were decided by less than 4 points so it really could have gone either way. >>
If you have three games that could go either way then there's a 1/8 chance that you would get all three right if you're just throwing darts.
I'm not saying this makes the Saints a hammer lock-- only that it might be useful information that's worth factoring into any 'decisions' one might be contemplating re: the outcome of the game.
-Michael
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<< <i>Funny how the Madden game doesn't try to pick the Super Bowl winner at the beginning of the season. You know, since the implication is that its formulas are so accurate..The math nerds over at EA should be able to write an equation to predict the outcome before week 1, right? Why wait until the week before the game is played?. Anyway, as I was reading the article, everything sounded logical until the "Reggie Bush for 2 TD's" line. Hmm, think I'm gonna take the under on that one.
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What are you talking about? So let's say the Madden game did, in fact, try to pick a Super Bowl winner in September. What would that prove? Or what would it disprove? What we're talking about is a simulation that has picked a 5.5 pt. dog to win a game outright. What the hell does that have to do with looking into a crystal ball and 'picking winners' five months into the future?
Edit to add: I'm giving you the full benefit of the doubt, and assuming that you're NOT saying that 'if the Madden software had any useful predictive power at all it could predict the Super Bowl winner five months in advance'. If that is, in fact, your point, then consider the matter closed- we don't have anything to discuss.
everything sounded logical until the "Reggie Bush for 2 TD's" line. Hmm, think I'm gonna take the under on that one.
Bush had two TDs in a game already this postseason, and one came on a punt return, so why would such a feat be so surprising? Have you even watched the NFL playoffs?
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There are tooooooo many intangables!! Anybody can just guess and have a 50/50 chance of being right.
Geezees!!!!!
Yeah, true, Madden would have had it 37-10, at least..
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I'm not sure what this means. The article said the only game it has gotten wrong was the Giants/Pats Super Bowl. Gostkowski didn't even attempt a FG in that game (although one could argue he should have on 4th and 11 on the Giants 32).
<<<Yeah, true, Madden would have had it 37-10, at least..>>>
Your a real funny guy grote.
Madden probably would have picked the Cowboys like everyone else who knows football did.
Who knew the Cowboys would have a terrible day and beat themselves like they did!!
Your a real funny guy grote.
Madden probably would have picked the Cowboys like everyone else who knows football did.
Who knew the Cowboys would have a terrible day and beat themselves like they did!!
I guess all the oddsmakers don't know football either, because the Vikings were FAVORED in that game, or did you miss that part? LOL..
P.S. "Everyone else who knows football" doesn't include all your fellow clueless Cowboy fans, I hate to tell ya, dimey..
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Your a real piece of work groty! I've noticed from your post that when it comes to sports your mouth is bigger than your brains!
Your a real piece of work groty! I've noticed from your post that when it comes to sports your mouth is bigger than your brains!
I wouldn't expect a clueless Cowboys fan who doesn't understanmd the definition of the word favored (it means more likely to win) in sports handicapping to assume any different, thank god for me!
If I had more time, I'd take you under my wing, but maybe SteveK can---after all, Lent is coming up and he likes Dallas fans.
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<< <i>I just did some quick research and noticed that the oddsmakers have also picked 5 of the last 6 winners. And of course, the Colts are favored this year. What's more, they have correctly picked 32 of the 43 winners. Looked at from that perspective, one might conclude that the Colts have a 75% chance to win. >>
And that's why I said this might be useful information. You only need to check the line to see that the market thinks the Colts have somewhere around a 66% chance of winning outright. Here's a simulation that has come up with an alternate analysis.
<< <i>Running the game thru the Madden software is bogus at best. Do you really think that if the Cowboys/Vikings game was run thru it, it would have predicted Vikings 37 to 3!!!!!! NO !!!!!!
There are tooooooo many intangables!! Anybody can just guess and have a 50/50 chance of being right.
Geezees!!!!! >>
That's a great point. Since it's all 50/50, how about you take the Saints, I'll take the Colts, for even money. We can do this for up to $10000. I look forward to receiving a PM from you where we can hammer out the details.
Like addicted gamblers who conjure up various sports betting systems, sooner or later one system will appear to be working and they believe that they have discovered the holy grail of handicapping, a system that can't lose, and they are now some sort of handicapping genius...when all they found was simply a hot variance...and sooner or later when the variance with that system evens out as it always does, and they are dead broke and in debt...they either learn that it is impossible to beat sports bookies in the long run or they continue on with the sucker's game of trying to beat sports bookies.
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Edit to add: I'm giving you the full benefit of the doubt, and assuming that you're NOT saying that 'if the Madden software had any useful predictive power at all it could predict the Super Bowl winner five months in advance'. If that is, in fact, your point, then consider the matter closed- we don't have anything to discuss. >>
Yes, that was exactly my point. There are enough people out there that try to pick super bowl winners every year, that getting 5 of the past 6 right isn't really all that impressive. The Madden game has been around much longer than 6 years anyway. Aren't you at least curious why "5 out of the last 6" was the chosen timeframe.....Its probably because "5 out of the last 10" didn't sound as interesting.
-Michael
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Edit to add: I'm giving you the full benefit of the doubt, and assuming that you're NOT saying that 'if the Madden software had any useful predictive power at all it could predict the Super Bowl winner five months in advance'. If that is, in fact, your point, then consider the matter closed- we don't have anything to discuss. >>
Yes, that was exactly my point. There are enough people out there that try to pick super bowl winners every year, that getting 5 of the past 6 right isn't really all that impressive. The Madden game has been around much longer than 6 years anyway. Aren't you at least curious why "5 out of the last 6" was the chosen timeframe.....Its probably because "5 out of the last 10" didn't sound as interesting.
-Michael >>
Yea, like those Saturday morning sports tout con artists ya see on cable TV shouting out to call their 900 number as they bodaciously brag about how they correctly picked 8 out of the last 10 games...of course they don't wanna mention they only picked 2 out of the last 10 before that. LOL
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That's a great point. Since it's all 50/50, how about you take the Saints, I'll take the Colts, for even money. We can do this for up to $10000. I look forward to receiving a PM from you where we can hammer out the details. >>
So how are you going to make payment, cash or check
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That's a great point. Since it's all 50/50, how about you take the Saints, I'll take the Colts, for even money. We can do this for up to $10000. I look forward to receiving a PM from you where we can hammer out the details. >>
So how are you going to make payment, cash or check >>
There goes the children's college tuition money. Oh well, the college thing is overrated anyway.
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That's a great point. Since it's all 50/50, how about you take the Saints, I'll take the Colts, for even money. We can do this for up to $10000. I look forward to receiving a PM from you where we can hammer out the details. >>
So how are you going to make payment, cash or check >>
There goes the children's college tuition money. Oh well, the college thing is overrated anyway. >>
Fail. Quick, Steve, if you can catch someone to get down with you for a big number on an off-market line, what's your next move?
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Edit to add: I'm giving you the full benefit of the doubt, and assuming that you're NOT saying that 'if the Madden software had any useful predictive power at all it could predict the Super Bowl winner five months in advance'. If that is, in fact, your point, then consider the matter closed- we don't have anything to discuss. >>
Yes, that was exactly my point. There are enough people out there that try to pick super bowl winners every year, that getting 5 of the past 6 right isn't really all that impressive. The Madden game has been around much longer than 6 years anyway. Aren't you at least curious why "5 out of the last 6" was the chosen timeframe.....Its probably because "5 out of the last 10" didn't sound as interesting.
-Michael >>
That's possible. I know nothing about the predictive powers of Madden simulations. I have heard before that they can be remarkably accurate, but who knows? Maybe that's just an urban legend. In any case, I thought the results of the sim might be interesting for people who were looking to get down on the game.
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That's a great point. Since it's all 50/50, how about you take the Saints, I'll take the Colts, for even money. We can do this for up to $10000. I look forward to receiving a PM from you where we can hammer out the details. >>
So how are you going to make payment, cash or check >>
There goes the children's college tuition money. Oh well, the college thing is overrated anyway. >>
Fail. Quick, Steve, if you can catch someone to get down with you for a big number on an off-market line, what's your next move? >>
Guy - these days I only "invest" in sure things such as buying a lot of cards for say 10K and "knowing" I can turn that into say 15K or 20K with basically no risk but some hard work - that definitely makes more sense to me. We both of course understand the bet - the "old" stevek would have taken that bet, but not the "new" stevek - I guess it all depends on one's perspective and situation in life.
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That's a great point. Since it's all 50/50, how about you take the Saints, I'll take the Colts, for even money. We can do this for up to $10000. I look forward to receiving a PM from you where we can hammer out the details. >>
So how are you going to make payment, cash or check >>
There goes the children's college tuition money. Oh well, the college thing is overrated anyway. >>
Fail. Quick, Steve, if you can catch someone to get down with you for a big number on an off-market line, what's your next move? >>
Guy - these days I only "invest" in sure things such as buying a lot of cards for say 10K and "knowing" I can turn that into say 15K or 20K with basically no risk but some hard work - that definitely makes more sense to me. We both of course understand the bet - the "old" stevek would have taken that bet, but not the "new" stevek - I guess it all depends on one's perspective and situation in life. >>
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That's a great point. Since it's all 50/50, how about you take the Saints, I'll take the Colts, for even money. We can do this for up to $10000. I look forward to receiving a PM from you where we can hammer out the details. >>
So how are you going to make payment, cash or check >>
There goes the children's college tuition money. Oh well, the college thing is overrated anyway. >>
Fail. Quick, Steve, if you can catch someone to get down with you for a big number on an off-market line, what's your next move? >>
Guy - these days I only "invest" in sure things such as buying a lot of cards for say 10K and "knowing" I can turn that into say 15K or 20K with basically no risk but some hard work - that definitely makes more sense to me. We both of course understand the bet - the "old" stevek would have taken that bet, but not the "new" stevek - I guess it all depends on one's perspective and situation in life. >>
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I didn't consider it from an "arbitrage" viewpoint...just a gambling perspective - Good point.
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