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Announcing a Pujols Minor League Card Discovery!

fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭
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Been working on this for a while, there is a variation in the 2000 Midwest League TopProspects Card issued by Multi-Ad Services.........Most of the cards come with the card numbered #20 on the reverse...


SOME CARDS CAN BE FOUND WITH NO NUMBER...a true NNO variation RECENTLY confirmed by PSA after i showed them the evidence and sent in both variation for grading.....

the story behind this variation is this....these minor league cards were printed many times after the original print run of 2000....the original print run however, DID NOT have the cards numbered on the back, this is the NNO variety...

the ones with the number 20 on the reverse are the more common ones --the ones that were printed in 2001, 2002 2003 2004 ....
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PSA, (thanks Susan), worked with me to make sure these cards will now be identified based on this Variation!

So what are you waiting for? get you Pujols Midwest League top Prospects cards out and start checking!!!!! do YOU have a RARE one?

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  • ripkenintheminorsripkenintheminors Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭
    Kudos on the find and to PSA for getting the slabs with correct info! I had a similar situation with PSA incorrently identifying Ripken cards. They were willing to look at the evidence and make the necessary changes. Too bad I can't say the same thing for Beckett in that regard.
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  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    Nice work. Is their a difference in market value for the 2 variations?

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  • scashaggyscashaggy Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭
    Nice work.
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  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭
    Mike, too soon to determine market value....havent seen any graded versions sold yet......

  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭
    a scan of the Variation in a PSA slab:

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  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭
    Great find on what is likely a valuable variation!

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  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    very cool, when I was finding new Mike Bossy cards to be added to the registry it was a good feeling, I know how you feel, good job!
  • MinorLeagueSourceMinorLeagueSource Posts: 661 ✭✭
    This one set was made over 10,000 times by a fellow who has since passed away. This card will never have any true value in the Minor League Community.
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  • richtreerichtree Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭
    yah, to PSA for taking time and paying attention to variation and noting it.

    Maybe this can spark more varitions to be noted properly.


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  • UlyssesExtravaganzaUlyssesExtravaganza Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That pic/card is mine. Recognize the blanket and know there aren't many. The listing just ended with no serious bids and haven't decided if I want to sell or keep. I've had this card plus another since Pujols was a rookie and getting his first at bats. My buddy had him on his fantasy team and he was kicking butt so I decided to pick up whatever cards I could find of him and this was it. There weren't any Bowman Chrome autos or other basic cards. I think he kind of took people by surprise and the only thing that was available were minor league cards. For the longest time I couldn't find out what I had. Because my cards had no number they didn't match. Then I submitted one to PSA and it came back with the No Number Variation designation and I was very interested. I checked and there are 8 that have been submitted and 7 PSA 10s. So the ones that were submitted are in good condition but not many submitted. In my listing, I asked that if anybody had any info about this to let me know. So the guy who discovered the variation contacted me and told me he has the other 6 PSA 10s. The other one I have is in a BGS 9 Raw Card Review sleeve. Haven't decided if I wanted to take it out and submit it to PSA since they look pretty similar. Given I had never seen one and there aren't many it's really hard to put a value on it. I threw it out there with a $350 BIN or Best Offer. If anybody has any questions about it, let me know. I can also try to dig up the message from the guy who knows most about this and post it here.
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  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭


    << <i>This one set was made over 10,000 times by a fellow who has since passed away. This card will never have any true value in the Minor League Community. >>



    true, the Numbered version is quite common....It was made not by a fellow, but by Multi-Ad advertising company out of (wait for it) PEORIA!...

    the NNO version is quite rare i assure you....i have been buying them for 3 years now whenever i saw them, and believe me, there arent many!

    before this, the Minor Leaue Community had NO CLUE this card existed!
  • SabermanSaberman Posts: 677
    Thought maybe you located one of his pubic hairs in your teeth.
    Are you sure about that five minutes!?
  • UlyssesExtravaganzaUlyssesExtravaganza Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not much more than what I already said but here was the message from the eBay member who said he discovered this variation.

    "hi! i was the discoverer of this variation...i have the other 6 PSA 10's...the no number variation is a LOT more rare and it is the only card from 2000...these cards with the number on the back were printed after 2000 (legally)...
    good luck in the sale, any other pujols question you may have i can probably answer..."

    Fandango, thanks for shedding some light on this variation. I do not feel many people know about it. I just learned about it when I got results from the December special back. There's not much information about these out there. I always wondered why a minor league card of arguably the best player would have so little value. But then learned that the ones that were being sold and the ones in the SMR are that variety that was sold after 2000 and mass produced. If anyone else has one, please let me know. Thanks.



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  • JTBJTB Posts: 186
    So why couldn't someone now mass produce the NNO variation?
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So why couldn't someone now mass produce the NNO variation? >>



    Upperdeck is looking into this.
  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭


    << <i>So why couldn't someone now mass produce the NNO variation? >>



    you can say that about ANY CARD....


    the MWL TOP prospects was printed under proper licensing....they were not printed illegally....its more like a "first print run" and then all the rest.....
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice - congratulations on the NNO card!

    mike
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  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    Power Eraser will be next......

    The variation is too small and too easily tampered with, it will not hold a much higher value over the other, just for that fact.

    if the back had a different logo or bio etc. that would be a different story. IMO
  • BlackborderBlackborder Posts: 2,797 ✭
    Neat!
  • bengineno9bengineno9 Posts: 597
    Fandango,
    Thanks for sharing this. I had to run down to the basement and look over my PSA 9 copy. Sure enough, no number.

    Same goes for the entire minor league set i purchased. Lackey, Overbay, Dunn. Makes me wish that i didn't sell my Peavy PSA10!

    So i imagine it's safe to say that NNO cards are the original print run?


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  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭
    yes! congrats!

    the No Number is the original print run from 2000....!

    send it back to PSA and they will update the flip as a mechanical error
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>So why couldn't someone now mass produce the NNO variation? >>



    Upperdeck is looking into this. >>



    haha, there's a factory somewhere in China with little to do...
  • hotmushhotmush Posts: 657
    Exactly why I continue to read the boards! Nice work!
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  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭
    Lots of stars in this set.....

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  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭
    Looks like it sold for a Premium after all (not bought by me)

    record high for that card!

    link to sale
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    Looks like there's an error on the birth date as well. The card you scanned says 1980?
  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭
    Ya Boo, that is his birthday...


  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like there's an error on the birth date as well. The card you scanned says 1980? >>



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