I don't think those A*B* variations have ever hit ebay. I have never pulled one in 20 years either (excluding the common Daryl Boston). I highly recommend listing them.
<< <i>I don't think those A*B* variations have ever hit ebay. I have never pulled one in 20 years either (excluding the common Daryl Boston). I highly recommend listing them. >>
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good job....love rare finds !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buying: Topps White Out (silver) letters Alex Gordon 80 Topps Greg Pryor “No Name" 90 ProSet Dexter Manley error 90 Topps Jeff King Yellow back 1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”) 81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat) 91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
After reading this I went through my box of 91's and found several of the variations. So I might as well try to get them all. But was wondering if all the cards have the bold 40th logo? I also have 1 that I did not see posted(# 706 brad arnsberg it has a line through the P on the front). Is there a list of all the variations availible? Thanks.
Please do check out the list but I warn you, it's "ongoing" so it's not complete yet and may never truly be complete as variations continue to be discovered every year.
To answer your other question: Only the cards from A* and B* sheet received a bold 40th logo on back. There are occasional "partial-bold 40th" printing errors from other sheets (Rickey Henderson for example) but they are generally considered print-flaws and not essential to a master set.
And in regards to cards with lines through the lettering, 99% of the time, those are all printing errors due to the misalignment of the plates (black in the case of the lines/names). I will definitely not be including them in the ongoing checklist.
I have done every Topps baseball set, 1948 to 2011, and at least through 1994 ( an a little thereafter) tried to do any variation listed in SCD or included in the Registry for master sets ( and a lot of non listed stuff too), and I agree that 1991 has the most ridiculous conglomeration of errors/variations/print defect and oddities in the Topps line up
Please do check out the list but I warn you, it's "ongoing" so it's not complete yet and may never truly be complete as variations continue to be discovered every year.
To answer your other question: Only the cards from A* and B* sheet received a bold 40th logo on back. There are occasional "partial-bold 40th" printing errors from other sheets (Rickey Henderson for example) but they are generally considered print-flaws and not essential to a master set.
And in regards to cards with lines through the lettering, 99% of the time, those are all printing errors due to the misalignment of the plates (black in the case of the lines/names). I will definitely not be including them in the ongoing checklist. >>
Agreed, those lines vary so much on every card, and every name vs line vs color you can't consider them at all.....
I looked at soo many and said it's a waste of time.
Buying: Topps White Out (silver) letters Alex Gordon 80 Topps Greg Pryor “No Name" 90 ProSet Dexter Manley error 90 Topps Jeff King Yellow back 1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”) 81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat) 91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
For anyone who may be interested, I'll have a nice lot of very rare 1991 Topps A*B* variations going up on eBay this weekend. I also have a lot of bold 40 backs where the red box surrounding the name is the same dark red color as the rest of the back. The A*B* backs are some of the rarest variations to come out of any Topps set. Please look for the listing and let me know if you have any questions. I'll also post more about what I know of the A*B* variations in this thread over the next few days.
<< <i>For anyone who may be interested, I'll have a nice lot of very rare 1991 Topps A*B* variations going up on eBay this weekend. I also have a lot of bold 40 backs where the red box surrounding the name is the same dark red color as the rest of the back. The A*B* backs are some of the rarest variations to come out of any Topps set. Please look for the listing and let me know if you have any questions. I'll also post more about what I know of the A*B* variations in this thread over the next few days. >>
Hi Eric,
Please make sure to check out my list on the blog and let me know what needs to be added when you have the time. Thanks!
I have an extra Whiten for sale -- after years of looking I finally have 2 of them....
The Holies is super - rare in PSA 10
Buying: Topps White Out (silver) letters Alex Gordon 80 Topps Greg Pryor “No Name" 90 ProSet Dexter Manley error 90 Topps Jeff King Yellow back 1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”) 81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat) 91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
Wll do - I have my 1991 Topps variations in good order at this point and that's actually the first set I wanted to pass along some updates on for your site.
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have listed a 34 count lot of the 1991 Topps A*B* variations on ebay. I've contemplated selling them for awhile now, and finally decided to take the plunge. My ebay ID is cincykid75. If anyone is interested in these, please feel free to let me know. I am willing to listen to serious offers for them. Thanks.
Buying: Topps White Out (silver) letters Alex Gordon 80 Topps Greg Pryor “No Name" 90 ProSet Dexter Manley error 90 Topps Jeff King Yellow back 1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”) 81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat) 91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
The Morgan MGR card does appear to be very scarce. It's the only one that I've ever seen, and I have over 100 different Morgans. The Whitaker and Irvine variations appear to be extremely scarce as well.
<< <i>The Morgan MGR card does appear to be very scarce. It's the only one that I've ever seen, and I have over 100 different Morgans. The Whitaker and Irvine variations appear to be extremely scarce as well.
Tim >>
Take a look at the "corrected" Morgans and you'll notice that Topps had a minor issue placing the added 1 in front. Some are placed high and some low.
I think that the Morgan can be added to the list as one of the toughest variations in the set. I think it's right up there with Whiten, Drabek, Hoiles, etc...
Also check your #59 Eric Yeldings. His 1987 BB's total is 12. This card can be found in 3 varieties with the '2' being partially clipped, hand-written, or perfectly normal.
Had a collecting first today, in all my years of collecting and opening packs I had never pulled a "blank back" card from a pack.
Was busting some 1991 Topps wax for fun and pulled a Carl Nichols (Catcher - Astros) with a blank back.
I realize not any value but to this point I had wondered if blanks fronts or backs were pulled from packs or were just otherwise obtained discarded product.
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<< <i>Had a collecting first today, in all my years of collecting and opening packs I had never pulled a "blank back" card from a pack.
Was busting some 1991 Topps wax for fun and pulled a Carl Nichols (Catcher - Astros) with a blank back.
I realize not any value but to this point I had wondered if blanks fronts or backs were pulled from packs or were just otherwise obtained discarded product. >>
1991 Topps Blank backs are very difficult to find. There isn't the surplus of backdoored copies that you find of other years such as 1992. The most I've ever seen in one shot was a 50-60 different lot, which I bought and resold later. Since then, they seldom come up for sale. About six years ago, I pulled a blank back Mickey Hatcher from a rack box so I definitely understand the thrill!
Another wrinkle to the 1991 Topps Variation/Error list -
Going through this set recently noticed that some players have a dark spot or hashmark on the the "4" in the the "40 Years of Baseball" Logo. Most players have a corrected version but some do not. Most with corrected versions are equally divided in quanity between mark and corrected versions.
The other interesting aspect is that all of the players are on either the Tigers, Braves or Cardinals.
Curoius if someone can confirm whether these spots were fixed for factory or Tiffany sets or whther these marks appear on those cards as well?
772 - Kent Mercker (Braves) Spot
743 - Bryn Smith (Cardinals) Spot 743 - Bryn smith (Cardinals)
742 - Tommy Gregg (Braves) Spot
693 - Francisco Cabrera (Braves) Spot 693 - Francisco Cabrera (Braves)
#13 – Mariano Duncan #54 – Gary Mielke #63 – Milt Thompson #72 – Junior Ortiz #76 – Jerry Browne #83 – Daryl Boston #120 – Joe Carter #123 – Greg Harris #153 – Bryan Harvey #155 – Dwight Evans (error version only) #170 – Carlton Fisk #177 – Reggie Harris #178 – Dave Valle #190 – Matt Williams #192 – Rob Deer #193 – Felix Fermin #213 – Frank Wills #216 – Greg Gagne #223 – Allan Anderson #237 – Rick Cerone #242 – Mike LaCoss #248 – Tom Gordon #250 – Dennis Eckersley #265 – Mark Gubicza #270 – Mark McGwire (correct version only) #272 – Jeff King #284 – Billy Spiers #290 – Steve Sax #297 – Manny Lee #312 – Charlie Hayes #314 – Gary Pettis #317 – Mike Fitzgerald #345 – Len Dykstra #382 – Mackey Sasser #384 – Gerald Perry #422 – Rick Reuschel #440 – George Bell #453 – Bill Schroeder #454 – Kevin Appier (error version only) #463 – Dwight Smith #475 – Teddy Higuera #478 – Kurt Stillwell #480 – Dave Magadan #481 – Eddie Whitson #509 – Glenallen Hill #532 – Kirk McCaskill #538 – Bip Roberts #584 – Kevin Brown #595 – Bill Landrum #610 – Andres Galarraga #622 – Jack Daugherty #642 – Hal Morris #644 – Chuck Crim #650 – Jack Clark #664 – John Farrell #667 – Kent Anderson #677 – Bill Ripken #716 – Bob Geren #718 – Steve Crawford #756 – Jeff Huson #781 – Daryl Hamilton #783 – Joel Skinner #785 – Scott Fletcher
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Some goodies from a recent box bust. These came from a box of wax, included the A/B sheet "bold backs", the Keith Comstock Cubs Error, and there were no print coded errors (all cards had the correct designation -no blanks, *A*B or even *E*F).
Fun to pack pull the scarce Storm Davis - Copyright in Upper White Border
Even cooler were these Alan Trammell All-Star variations that I have not seen previously documented. The pink border is visible through the card number 389.
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#22 - B - Storm Davis, no copyright (corrected) - left
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#48 - B - Dennis Boyd, wrist airbrushed pink to blend with logo - center
#48 - C - Dennis Boyd, 40th anniversary logo covers wrist with fully corrected black border - left
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#374 - B - Larry Casian, pimples airbrushed - Left
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#277 - B - Scott Coolbaugh, no streak - Right
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#603 - B - Wes Chamberlain, no bat (Corrected) - Left
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<< <i>I don't think those A*B* variations have ever hit ebay. I have never pulled one in 20 years either (excluding the common Daryl Boston). I highly recommend listing them. >>
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The A*B* variations of Harvey and Wills went for $10.50 and $7.50.
Dennis Boyd trio went for $6.50.
Storm Davis netted the .99 minimum.
Not bad considering I didn't know I owned them 2 weeks ago.
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Topps White Out (silver) letters Alex Gordon
80 Topps Greg Pryor “No Name"
90 ProSet Dexter Manley error
90 Topps Jeff King Yellow back
1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”)
81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat)
91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
#83 Daryl Boston
Right (standard)
Left (variation) Line through OF and Daryl Boston/ Blue filling top border in Mets Banner
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Please do check out the list but I warn you, it's "ongoing" so it's not complete yet and may never truly be complete as variations continue to be discovered every year.
To answer your other question: Only the cards from A* and B* sheet received a bold 40th logo on back. There are occasional "partial-bold 40th" printing errors from other sheets (Rickey Henderson for example) but they are generally considered print-flaws and not essential to a master set.
And in regards to cards with lines through the lettering, 99% of the time, those are all printing errors due to the misalignment of the plates (black in the case of the lines/names). I will definitely not be including them in the ongoing checklist.
Collecting Robin Ventura and Matt Luke.
Bowman Baseball -1948-1955
Fleer Baseball-1923, 1959-2007
Al
<< <i>Hi,
Please do check out the list but I warn you, it's "ongoing" so it's not complete yet and may never truly be complete as variations continue to be discovered every year.
To answer your other question: Only the cards from A* and B* sheet received a bold 40th logo on back. There are occasional "partial-bold 40th" printing errors from other sheets (Rickey Henderson for example) but they are generally considered print-flaws and not essential to a master set.
And in regards to cards with lines through the lettering, 99% of the time, those are all printing errors due to the misalignment of the plates (black in the case of the lines/names). I will definitely not be including them in the ongoing checklist. >>
Agreed, those lines vary so much on every card, and every name vs line vs color you can't consider them at all.....
I looked at soo many and said it's a waste of time.
Topps White Out (silver) letters Alex Gordon
80 Topps Greg Pryor “No Name"
90 ProSet Dexter Manley error
90 Topps Jeff King Yellow back
1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”)
81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat)
91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
<< <i>For anyone who may be interested, I'll have a nice lot of very rare 1991 Topps A*B* variations going up on eBay this weekend. I also have a lot of bold 40 backs where the red box surrounding the name is the same dark red color as the rest of the back. The A*B* backs are some of the rarest variations to come out of any Topps set. Please look for the listing and let me know if you have any questions. I'll also post more about what I know of the A*B* variations in this thread over the next few days. >>
Hi Eric,
Please make sure to check out my list on the blog and let me know what needs to be added when you have the time. Thanks!
Collecting Robin Ventura and Matt Luke.
I have an extra Whiten for sale -- after years of looking I finally have 2 of them....
The Holies is super - rare in PSA 10
Topps White Out (silver) letters Alex Gordon
80 Topps Greg Pryor “No Name"
90 ProSet Dexter Manley error
90 Topps Jeff King Yellow back
1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”)
81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat)
91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have listed a 34 count lot of the 1991 Topps A*B* variations on ebay.
I've contemplated selling them for awhile now, and finally decided to take the plunge.
My ebay ID is cincykid75.
If anyone is interested in these, please feel free to let me know.
I am willing to listen to serious offers for them. Thanks.
Tim
#21 Joe Morgan MGR - '87' Hits (Most copies have '187' hits)
#656 Checklist - (348 Palacios)
#247 Jody Reed and #648 Lee Stevens - (Bio Dark Red instead of Pink)
#16 Mike Heath - (White Blob in upper left back corner)
#122 Paul O'Neill - (Brown Blob on left shoulder)
#139 Jeff Treadway - (Strange Blob in front of '2B' on front)
#145 Lou Whitaker - (Missing most of 'H' in last name)
#189 Daryl Irvine - (Bullseye located in place of 1988 'GS', should be '14')
#212 Steve Finley - (Either two blue blotches, or two pink blotches located near right leg)
#254 Shawn Boskie - (Thin vertical red line on chest)
#269 Joe Hesketh - (Strange Green Blob located just underneath the 'R' in 'Red Sox' on front)
#349 Dave Gallagher - (White Hairlike Strand on left border on front)
#355 Chili Davis - (Red Blotch on front upper right corner)
#386 Cecil Fielder AS - (White Circular Blotch on front)
#437 Doug Dascenzo - (Red Ink bleeding on back)
#519 Sparky Anderson - (Bullseye like object covers 'O' in last name on back)
#523 Rodney McCray - (Green Blotch just over right shoulder on front)
#530 Roger Clemens - ('Pink' card number on back)
#568 Ron Karkovice - (Thin Black mark on front upper right corner)
#708 John Mitchell - (Strange Blotch just under right arm on front)
#753 Paul Marak - ('Batman' like Blotch near left shoulder on front)
Topps White Out (silver) letters Alex Gordon
80 Topps Greg Pryor “No Name"
90 ProSet Dexter Manley error
90 Topps Jeff King Yellow back
1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”)
81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat)
91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
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It's the only one that I've ever seen, and I have over 100 different Morgans.
The Whitaker and Irvine variations appear to be extremely scarce as well.
Tim
<< <i>The Morgan MGR card does appear to be very scarce.
It's the only one that I've ever seen, and I have over 100 different Morgans.
The Whitaker and Irvine variations appear to be extremely scarce as well.
Tim >>
Take a look at the "corrected" Morgans and you'll notice that Topps had a minor issue placing the added 1 in front. Some are placed high and some low.
Collecting Robin Ventura and Matt Luke.
I think it's right up there with Whiten, Drabek, Hoiles, etc...
Also check your #59 Eric Yeldings.
His 1987 BB's total is 12.
This card can be found in 3 varieties with the '2' being partially clipped, hand-written, or perfectly normal.
Tim
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
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Was busting some 1991 Topps wax for fun and pulled a Carl Nichols (Catcher - Astros) with a blank back.
I realize not any value but to this point I had wondered if blanks fronts or backs were pulled from packs or were just otherwise obtained discarded product.
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<< <i>Had a collecting first today, in all my years of collecting and opening packs I had never pulled a "blank back" card from a pack.
Was busting some 1991 Topps wax for fun and pulled a Carl Nichols (Catcher - Astros) with a blank back.
I realize not any value but to this point I had wondered if blanks fronts or backs were pulled from packs or were just otherwise obtained discarded product. >>
1991 Topps Blank backs are very difficult to find. There isn't the surplus of backdoored copies that you find of other years such as 1992. The most I've ever seen in one shot was a 50-60 different lot, which I bought and resold later. Since then, they seldom come up for sale. About six years ago, I pulled a blank back Mickey Hatcher from a rack box so I definitely understand the thrill!
Collecting Robin Ventura and Matt Luke.
Nolan Ryan #1, Chipper Jones RC #333 and Tony Gwynn #180 are ALWAYS together in the same pack.
Wax or cello, you always hit this order:
465 Ken Griffey
596 Ronnie Walden
1 Nolan Ryan
367 Dave Walsh
333 Chipper Jones
626 Gerald Young
180 Tony Gwynn
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Partial blackless - Juan Bernguer missing black ink in the upper left corner on logo
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Going through this set recently noticed that some players have a dark spot or hashmark on the the "4" in the the "40 Years of Baseball" Logo. Most players have a corrected version but some do not. Most with corrected versions are equally divided in quanity between mark and corrected versions.
The other interesting aspect is that all of the players are on either the Tigers, Braves or Cardinals.
Curoius if someone can confirm whether these spots were fixed for factory or Tiffany sets or whther these marks appear on those cards as well?
772 - Kent Mercker (Braves) Spot
743 - Bryn Smith (Cardinals) Spot
743 - Bryn smith (Cardinals)
742 - Tommy Gregg (Braves) Spot
693 - Francisco Cabrera (Braves) Spot
693 - Francisco Cabrera (Braves)
684 - Milt Cuyler (Tigers) Spot
684 - Milt Cuyler (Tigers)
632 - Lloyd Moseby (Tigers) Spot
566 - Craig Wilson (Cardinals) Spot
566 - Craig Wilson (Cardinals)
533 - Odibe McDowell (Braves) Spot
533 - Odibe McDowell (Braves)
519 - Sparky Anderson (Tigers) Spot
498 - Mark Salas (Tigers) Spot
498 - Mark Salas (Tigers)
492 - Ernie Whitt (Braves) Spot
383 - Pete Smith (Braves) Spot
383 - Pete Smith (Braves)
351 - Joe Torre (Cardinals) Spot
351 - Joe Torre (Cardinals)
185 - Joe Magrane (Cardinals) Spot
185 - Joe Magrane (Cardinals)
160 - Vince Coleman (Cardinals) Spot
88 - Bob Tewksbury (Cardinals) Spot
88 - Bob Tewksbury (Cardinals)
75 - Jack Morris (Tigers) Spot
75 - Jack Morris (Tigers)
41 - Ken Dayley (Cardinals) Spot
41 - Ken Dayley (Cardinals)
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Very respectable $62.01
Whiten Sale
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I know these are not "packed-out" errors, but a pretty big 1991 Topps baseball sale none-the-less.
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1991 Topps *A*B*
known list of *A*B errors
#13 – Mariano Duncan
#54 – Gary Mielke
#63 – Milt Thompson
#72 – Junior Ortiz
#76 – Jerry Browne
#83 – Daryl Boston
#120 – Joe Carter
#123 – Greg Harris
#153 – Bryan Harvey
#155 – Dwight Evans (error version only)
#170 – Carlton Fisk
#177 – Reggie Harris
#178 – Dave Valle
#190 – Matt Williams
#192 – Rob Deer
#193 – Felix Fermin
#213 – Frank Wills
#216 – Greg Gagne
#223 – Allan Anderson
#237 – Rick Cerone
#242 – Mike LaCoss
#248 – Tom Gordon
#250 – Dennis Eckersley
#265 – Mark Gubicza
#270 – Mark McGwire (correct version only)
#272 – Jeff King
#284 – Billy Spiers
#290 – Steve Sax
#297 – Manny Lee
#312 – Charlie Hayes
#314 – Gary Pettis
#317 – Mike Fitzgerald
#345 – Len Dykstra
#382 – Mackey Sasser
#384 – Gerald Perry
#422 – Rick Reuschel
#440 – George Bell
#453 – Bill Schroeder
#454 – Kevin Appier (error version only)
#463 – Dwight Smith
#475 – Teddy Higuera
#478 – Kurt Stillwell
#480 – Dave Magadan
#481 – Eddie Whitson
#509 – Glenallen Hill
#532 – Kirk McCaskill
#538 – Bip Roberts
#584 – Kevin Brown
#595 – Bill Landrum
#610 – Andres Galarraga
#622 – Jack Daugherty
#642 – Hal Morris
#644 – Chuck Crim
#650 – Jack Clark
#664 – John Farrell
#667 – Kent Anderson
#677 – Bill Ripken
#716 – Bob Geren
#718 – Steve Crawford
#756 – Jeff Huson
#781 – Daryl Hamilton
#783 – Joel Skinner
#785 – Scott Fletcher
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I know these are not "packed-out" errors, but a pretty big 1991 Topps baseball sale none-the-less. >>
I love that the seller didn't even provide a picture of the back of the card.
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<< <i>Link to Junk Wax Gems website page on 1991 Topps *A*B errors (super website)
1991 Topps *A*B*
>>
Thank you! I wish I still had time for it.
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<< <i>
<< <i>Link to Junk Wax Gems website page on 1991 Topps *A*B errors (super website)
1991 Topps *A*B*
>>
Thank you! I wish I still had time for it. >>
Me too. I loved it when you were updating it periodically. I have it bookmarked. Still a lot of great info there.
Fun to pack pull the scarce Storm Davis - Copyright in Upper White Border
Even cooler were these Alan Trammell All-Star variations that I have not seen previously documented. The pink border is visible through the card number 389.
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