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another example of the wussification of the NFL

jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
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what a horse-bleep call against Ray Lewis defending a pass play....what a joke.

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,725 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It certainly wasn't a malicious hit, but if anytime there's helmet to helmet contact, there's going to be a flag...esp now with all the controversy about head injuries..


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  • RAPTORSRULE04RAPTORSRULE04 Posts: 194 ✭✭✭
    Are we playing soccer now?
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>While one might argue whether the rulebook should be changed, there was nothing wrong with the call. Much more benign examples of the same penalty have been called all year long as well as in previous seasons. Heck, it was a vicious textbook example of why the rule was instituted in the first place. Ray Lewis threw his entire body into the air (completely off the ground) and led with his helmet. >>

    The NFL has clearly been trying to remove some of the "official's discretion" from the game. No more discretion as to whether a face mask was minor or flagrant. No more discretion as to whether a receiver in the air would have come down in bound if not pushed out. No more discretion as to whether a hit leading with the helmet was intentionally inflicted.
  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    I would prefer if they had one set of rules and made calls consistently, regardless of the teams or players involved. That isn't happening.

    Totally separate issue (and back to the OP's point) --- take away the ability to hit a receiver on a catch and the game becomes a watered down version of what used to be NFL football. Lewis led with his forearm and shoulder. That particular hit should be just fine. The rulebook is really starting to suck.
  • interchangesinterchanges Posts: 864 ✭


    << <i>what a horse-bleep call >>



    I thought so too, and I hate the guy.

    I also heard him say "Play football!" while the ref was announcing the penalty. nice
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It certainly wasn't a malicious hit, but if anytime there's helmet to helmet contact, there's going to be a flag...esp now with all the controversy about head injuries.. >>



    well thats not always the case. but they will still fine a player who didnt get a flag anyway.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,725 ✭✭✭✭✭
    < It certainly wasn't a malicious hit, but if anytime there's helmet to helmet contact, there's going to be a flag...esp now with all the controversy about head injuries.. >>



    well thats not always the case. but they will still fine a player who didnt get a flag anyway.

    I should qualify that by saying, if the ref sees it, they will invariably throw the flag..the league reviews each game in irs entirety after it's played, though, and will impose fines for infractions missed by the officials.


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  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    I didn't see him leading with anything but his head right into the WRs head. Regardless that one didn't lose the game for the team if I remember correctly they had a whole other half to play after that. If a team can't come back from that amount of adversity then they don't deserve to win.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,725 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with Morgot...the replay clearly showed that he left his feet and led with his helmet. Again, I didn't think it was necessarily a malicious hit, but the ref has to throw the flag on that play based on the rulebook.


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I didn't watch that game...but to think the NFL is wussier or whatever, is just plain silly. The newer rules are simply designed to help prevent injury. The hard hits are just as hard as they always were.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,725 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd even say that the hits are far more violent and dangerous today, even with all the rule changes, than they were 20 years ago...the players and bigger, stronger, faster, and as a result the hits are more violent for the most part.


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,349 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd even say that the hits are far more violent and dangerous today, even with all the rule changes, than they were 20 years ago...the players and bigger, stronger, faster, and as a result the hits are more violent for the most part. >>



    Absolutely right. These guys are almost like getting in a "car accident" on many plays whereby ya don't necessarily die from external injuries but the internal injuries of your body organs getting shuffled around out of place from the sudden stop. Yes, they're not going 60 miles per hour and suddenly stop like a car, but it's still violent collisions that add up over the years.

    It's no coincidence that many NFL players die at an early age compared to the general population.
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