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i believe JOSE CANSECO cards are a good investment

i think his 86 donruss card will only go up from this point. (could someone post that legend of a card?). he saved baseball from itself with his truthfulness about steroids unlike all the other boobies of the steroid era. again, not defending his actions but atleast he's not lying about it--the first person of his era to come clean and as a result will reap dividends. he is also a reality star SUPERSTAR i did a completed listings of his cards and believe me it sell for decent coin considering the time era...over a buck + shipping which is more than most (I'm honestly not being sarcastic here, I think Jose can you see cards will blast off in the future)

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  • Answer the damn question weiner boy


  • << <i>Answer the damn question weiner boy >>



    My Schwartz is as big as yours.


    ALT
  • WOT the hell is your problem????????????
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Why Canseco? Bonds, Clemens, A-Rod, Raffy, Sosa, they were all better on steroids than Canseco was.

    Canseco's no hero.

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  • THANK YOU FOR THE SCAN!!!!!!!!!!!I loved that card back in the day.As to your comment I was not trying to say Canseco performed better than the other steroids players (Far from it) but he was the first ot ADMIT his uses of it. And b/c of the unions and other reasons historians might look back and thank him for exposing what others could/would not
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ode to Jose Can-you-see Me in the Hall

    Forget Pete Rose! Hey look at me,
    For years been on a hittin' spree.
    I've carried teams upon my back,
    I am the Best, not talkin' smack.

    I'm big, I'm buff, 'roids made me tuff,
    If all those homers ain't enough,
    I'm loved by women large and small,
    My Bust's a must in the Cooperstown Hall.

    Whenever I want, a base I steal,
    I'm a 40/40 and that's for real.
    Jose Can-you-see, I'm 10 feet tall,
    My Bust's a must in the Cooperstown Hall.

    I've got the goods, I've got the look,
    I'm not just pretty, I've got a Book.
    I'm quick, I'm fast, I never fall,
    My Bust's a must in the Cooperstown Hall.

    But just remember, when you vote this fall,
    Forget balls bouncing over the wall.
    Vote for me, or I'll tell all,
    My Bust's a must in the Cooperstown Hall,
    My Bust's a must in the Cooperstown Hall.

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    Mike
  • CubbyCubby Posts: 2,096
    Mike, you're a poetic genius. image


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  • CubbyCubby Posts: 2,096
    And Jose is (or was) a MMA fighter!


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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DrLou is lu-lu, apparently with this "investment" recommendation..


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  • i'm not saying to pay '87 prices but if you can pick em up for a wendy's jr cheeseburger they could bloom into a mushroom melt
  • Is this really happening or is the beer getting to me?
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭
    PSA 1. chaz



    PR 1: Poor.

    A PSA Poor 1 will exhibit many of the same qualities of a PSA Fair 1.5 but the defects may have advanced to such a serious stage that the eye-appeal of the card has nearly vanished in its entirety. A Poor card may be missing one or two small pieces, exhibit major creasing that nearly breaks through all the layers of cardboard or it may contain extreme discoloration or dirtiness throughout that may make it difficult to identify the issue or content of the card on either the front or back. A card of this nature may also show noticeable warping or another type of destructive defect.

  • It does have the chance to increase 100% in value, from $1 to $2
    best stock up now ya here.
  • LittletweedLittletweed Posts: 624 ✭✭✭

    "Answer the damn question weiner boy"

    Alt?..............Yes sir, you are correct!

    Matt

  • What the hell does ALT mean anywy, i 've seen that term bandied about but what does it mean? alternative, for what?
  • dizzledizzle Posts: 1,051 ✭✭


    << <i>What the hell does ALT mean anywy, i 've seen that term bandied about but what does it mean? alternative, for what? >>



    ALT id for someone who was banned like Kshorton.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>THANK YOU FOR THE SCAN!!!!!!!!!!!I loved that card back in the day.As to your comment I was not trying to say Canseco performed better than the other steroids players (Far from it) but he was the first ot ADMIT his uses of it. And b/c of the unions and other reasons historians might look back and thank him for exposing what others could/would not >>



    I doubt it, but if you want to stock up on Canseco's, go for it.

    Shouldn't Curt Flood rookie cards be going through the roof, since it was he who we have to thank for bringing about the end of the Reserve Clause and starting the era of Free Agency?
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  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    There's a certain guy in Texas that uses slabbed Canseco cards for beverage coasters. He probably has enough to last another 12 years.

    I think Canseco card prices will go way up when the general masses start to appreciate and understand how rare the 'homerun-off-his-head' feat was. He's the only one I've ever seen do it.

    If he gets with Madonna again, or fights at the MGM against Tonya Harding it will affect his card prices too.

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  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    I actually have to kind of agree about Canseco's Donruss RC. I think a lot of collectors who were collecting in the late 80s when that card was the BOMB, have started buying the card in high grade now as a nostalgia thing.

    Besides, the card really couldn't have gotten any lower than it was a couple of years ago.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>i'm not saying to pay '87 prices but if you can pick em up for a wendy's jr cheeseburger they could bloom into a mushroom melt >>




    or an overcooked chorizo.
  • Yea but nothing modern will keep rising in prices too many out there (the mainline cards at least). Nothing worth retiring on...

    Sorry Bill, you 80's cards won't save your retirement image
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭

    <<Shouldn't Curt Flood rookie cards be going through the roof, since it was he who we have to thank for bringing about the end of the Reserve Clause and starting the era of Free Agency?>>>








    For the record Flood lost his case against MLB. If anything he laid the ground work for guys like McNally and Messerschmidt who did win their case.



    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    "Dr. Lou" exactly what type of doctor are you? Card doctor?


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    Because of supply and demand (ie the current number of collectors), Canseco cards, as most of the mid-late 80's cards will never hold much of a collector value mainly because there are always going to be more cards than people wanting them. It's unfortunate that so many collectors do not collect anymore, but reality is, unless multiple people start hoarding thousands upon thousands of these, there are going to be more than enough to keep the price from ever going up more than $10-$15 in the next hundred years.
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  • BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭
    I like this one.

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  • AUPTAUPT Posts: 806 ✭✭✭
    Will Canseco's role as a clubhouse rat add any futurue value to his cards? I don't see it.

    Does anybody remember who blew the whistle on the 1919 Black Sox? (FWIW, I don't) Are his cards worth a premium?

    I tend to agree with the theory that some day the really iconic cards of the mid-late 1980s will enjoy something of a resurgance as those who were kid collectors back then try to get cards they may never have had, such as 1984 Donruss Mattingly, 1985 Topps McGwire and, yes, 1986 Donruss Canseco.


  • << <i>Shouldn't Curt Flood rookie cards be going through the roof, since it was he who we have to thank for bringing about the end of the Reserve Clause and starting the era of Free Agency? >>



    If we are to believe that, which I do, then the entire steroid era would therotically also be Flood's fault.

    If not for free agency, players would not have the motivation to put up monster numbers in a contract year. If that motivation was not there, players would not use steroids to help them accomplish that monster year.

    Curt Flood is the root of all evil.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>Curt Flood is the root of all evil. >>



    Nah, the British are to blame. They invented a few games that were transformed into American Baseball. Had the Brits not done this horrible thing, we wouldn't have any of this baseball crap today.
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  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    If any of you Canseco haters out there have any mint raw 86 Donruss RCs, I'll buy them
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Curt Flood is the root of all evil. >>



    Nah, the British are to blame. They invented a few games that were transformed into American Baseball. Had the Brits not done this horrible thing, we wouldn't have any of this baseball crap today. >>



    i can live with that, but their food sucks.....they've obviously never grasped the importance of a memorable sauce.
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    At this point, he's more a novelty than anything else, but that won't hurt his card values. Those type of players (ie, Fidrych) usually have interest to collectors long term. But I also agree that the supply will likely be greater than the demand. I wouldn't be shocked to see his PSA 10 rc's doubling to $100.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    i dunno......Bird was cute when he actually talked to the baseball, while JuiceBox telepathically pushed it over the fence. image
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭
    I dont think Canseco is much of an investmest.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    well i guess it cant go DOWN any further..or can it image
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>I like this one.

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    Hmm, so now Fritsch is not only hoarding cards, he's printing his own???? Man I learn a lot on here. image
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  • KarbKarb Posts: 557 ✭✭✭
    I tend to agree with the resurgence theory. I myself have recently been buying the cards I couldn't afford as youngster and the Donruss Canseco was one of the top cards I needed for my "wantlist" But I still don't see his cards or anyone elses from that era getting that high priced again. Way too much crap out there.
    Robert

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  • BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's the set.

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  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most long-term collectors would agree that almost all cards will decrease in value over time, once adjusted for inflation, except for a limited few HOF RC's and rarities. The graded common craze is IMO the only thing that has kept values anywhere near parity with inflation in that time.

    The easiest long term trend for review is from 1989 to present, where 99.5% of cards decreased in value, with cards issued for years 1974 to 1995 being hardest hit during that period.

    Canseco falls within this period.

    It could be argued that his card values will decline LESS than the average. I would agree, as he has some things going for him, including what I like to refer to as the "Once Sold For" factor, which spurs sales with the fallacy that earlier traded value is an indicator of future performance.
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  • BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would agree, as he has some things going for him, including what I like to refer to as the "Once Sold For" factor >>



    I once sold his 86 Donruss for $100. I'm sure the guy that bought it isn't to pleased with the value now but things were crazy in the late 80's/early 90's.

    And I fall under the couldn't afford it then category so I pick up a few now and again to add to my collection.

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    And I don't care about condition being the best. I'm not in this for investment purposes and am just enjoying whatever it is that I collect.
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