Error experts: is there a difference between a capped die and die cap?
Hyperion
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Are these interchangable phrases? It's a bit confusing, I've seen a respectable TPG use both phrases on what looks like the same type of error (to my ignorant eye). Grammatically, different construction 
My question is if this is the official TPG term written on the label, what could the purpose of using 2 different equivalent terms be? I figure they're trying to tell me something
Thanks in advance for any information you can provide....
My question is if this is the official TPG term written on the label, what could the purpose of using 2 different equivalent terms be? I figure they're trying to tell me something
Thanks in advance for any information you can provide....
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<< <i>They are the same. >>
NO...
A capped die is also used to describe a full brockage which was struck by a die with an adhered cap.
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<< <i>They are the same. >>
NO...
A capped die is also used to describe a full brockage which was struck by a die with an adhered cap. >>
Bingo.
-Paul
Capped Die Error Full Obverse Brockage which is a planchet that was fed into the collar and was struck by a die with an adhered cap.
Die Cap Error which was stuck on the die and the walls mushroomed from repeated blows.
<< <i>No reason to make this complicated. A capped die is a die to which a planchet adhered during the striking process. A die cap is the planchet that adhered to the die. >>
A capped die is a planchet which was struck while another planchet was adhered to the die during the striking process.
In layman's terms... Capped Dies are Struck by Die Caps.
It would be less complicated if TPG Slab inserts had more character space and they where called "Capped Die Strike" IMHO.
Read what you wrote, Broadstruck: "A capped die is a planchet . . . " A die is not a planchet whether it is capped or not. You're describing a coin (or planchet) that has been struck with a capped die. Edited to add: I just read your intervening post, and I see that we agree . . . that the TPGs have screwed up the terminology.
<< <i>Read what you wrote, Broadstruck: "A capped die is a planchet . . . " A die is not a planchet whether it is capped or not. You're describing a coin (or planchet) that has been struck with a capped die. >>
I know what I wrote... Full Brockage Errors are commonly called Capped Die Errors.
is merely a coin or planchet struck by a capped die. It can be the cap itself.
<< <i>You didn't see my edit.
Nope I'm Sorry
<< <i>This is just terminology. "Capped die" is usually short for capped die strike which
is merely a coin or planchet struck by a capped die. It can be the cap itself. >>
cladking has a way with words... thanks BS and CK and all!!!!
1. A "capped die" is a die whose working face is covered by a coin that adhered to it. A capped die cannot be collected.
2. A "die cap" is the coin that has adhered to the die face and that often wraps around the neck of the die.
3. A "capped die strike" is a coin that was struck by a die cap (or a capped die).
That said, you'll often see the term "capped die" used to refer to a die cap.
Far worse is the fact that the terms "die cap", and "capped die" are often used to refer to a host of errors that are nothing of the sort.
For example, the Mercury dime that is shown appears to be the result of a single strike. A planchet was fed into the striking chamber on top of a freshly-struck dime. The two were struck together and the top coin, being unconfined by the collar, curled up slightly in the direction of the hammer (reverse) die. It would therefore be a cupped broadstrike with a centered, first-strike brockage of the reverse design on the obverse face. Mercury dimes are struck using the reverse die as the hammer die.
The barber dime is a capped die strike. It also appears to have been struck only once. Specifically, it is an early-stage brockage of the reverse design on the obverse face.