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Brady: ‘I would have been booing us, too’
Posted: January 10th, 2010 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: New England Patriots, Tom Brady

Patriots QB Tom Brady finally made his way to the podium for his postgame news conference to share his thoughts on the franchise’s first home playoff lost since 1978. Brady spoke mostly in generalities about the season, but much of the focus on Sunday’s 33-14 loss was on mistakes — the Patriots made them, and the Ravens capitalized on them.

“Playing the way we played today, we’re not going to be beat anybody, more less a good football team,” said Brady, who suffered his first career home playoff loss.

Brady’s stat line wasn’t pretty, to say the least. He accounted for four turnovers — three interceptions and a fumble — of which three came during the first quarter, all leading to Baltimore scores. Brady completed 23-of-42 passes for 154 yards and two touchdowns.

Brady was asked about the booing inside Gillette Stadium before the first quarter was even in the books, with the Patriots trailing 24-0.

“I would have been booing us, too, the way we played,” Brady responded. “That’s their right. We just didn’t play well. You have to give those guys a lot of credit, they played well in all phases, and really took it to us.”

Brady began the season recovering from offseason knee surgery, and finished it with a number of reported ailments — including published reports he has been playing with broken ribs throughout the season. When asked if it was an appropriate time to divuldge those injuries, Brady sidestepped their significance, pointing out he managed to play in all 16 games and all players deal with injuries.

“I don’t want to get into all that. Whatever it is, we all have to overcome it. They certainly didn’t keep me from playing,” Brady said.

“The only way a quarterback can display toughness is to be out there. We don’t hit anybody, we don’t block, we don’t do any of that stuff. … I think injuries are a bunch of B.S. I just think, when you play, you play. And if you can’t play, you can’t play. But when you’re out there, you have to play at the level the team expects you to play. ”

It looks too early to know if those unspecified injuries — although he was listed on the team’s injury report every week during the regular season with right shoulder/right finer/rib ailments — will keep Brady out of his next scheduled game, the Pro Bowl. Brady said the Patriots have their season exit physicals Monday: “We’ll see what comes up.”

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Booing a player and coach who brought you 3 Super Bowl rings?

    Boston fans always comment about "stay classy" - booing like this was low class without a doubt. You should have been applauding this team for providing you a remarkable decade of football.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A Philly fan lecturing another city on fan etiquette? Isn't that like Tiger Woods speaking about fidelity?


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  • Philly fans don't boo their own guys, just Santa Claus, or when an opposing player has a potentially life-threatening injury, their draft picks...
  • EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭


    << <i>A Philly fan lecturing another city on fan etiquette? Isn't that like Tiger Woods speaking about fidelity? >>



    That was a grand analogy.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A Philly fan lecturing another city on fan etiquette? Isn't that like Tiger Woods speaking about fidelity? >>



    It's about fans who should show respect and appreciation to a team that has enjoyed great success in the past decade. Yes, the Patriots crapped out today, but that's like being at the craps table, some shooter had a magnificent roll and made you a lot of money, he craps out and so you boo him because you lost some of the money back? Booing this team which had brought Pats fans a lot of joy, and 3 Super Bowl championships, really is pathetic...especially when any time another team's fans do something like this...Boston fans are the first ones here to post with a "lecture"...IE "stay classy" type comments.
  • But isn't it a bit hypocritical for a philly fan of all people to lecture others on fan etiquette?
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The same Philly fans that were applauding as Michael Irvin lay prone on the field with a serious injury? The same Philly fans who threw batteries at opposing players and who threw snowballs at Santa? Those Philly fans?? image


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  • << <i>The same Philly fans that were applauding as Michael Irvin lay prone on the field with a serious injury? The same Philly fans who threw batteries at opposing players and who threw snowballs at Santa? Those Philly fans?? image >>



    That's somehow ok in a Philly fan's eyes but booing a terrible performance isn't? When you're used to a high level of performance, and you get crap, then the booing is warranted. They're not saying they're not appreciative for the past results (the fact that they're there paying hard-earned money is proof of that), but each performance should be graded on an individual scale. They cheered when they performed well, and booed when they sucked.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>A Philly fan lecturing another city on fan etiquette? Isn't that like Tiger Woods speaking about fidelity? >>



    That was a grand analogy. >>



    No, I'll give you a real analogy - there wasn't a single Phillies fan who booed the Phillies after losing to the Yankees in the 2009 World Series.

    I'm not against booing (LOL), especially a team that deserves it...but booing a team that has won 3 Super Bowl championships with the same QB and coach? Come on now...that truly is pathetic.

    "Stay classy" Pats fans.


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    << <i>

    << <i>A Philly fan lecturing another city on fan etiquette? Isn't that like Tiger Woods speaking about fidelity? >>



    That was a grand analogy. >>



    No, I'll give you a real analogy - there wasn't a single Phillies fan who booed the Phillies after losing to the Yankees in the 2009 World Series.

    I'm not against booing (LOL), especially a team that deserves it...but booing a team that has won 3 Super Bowl championships with the same QB and coach? Come on now...that truly is pathetic.

    "Stay classy" Pats fans. >>



    Philly didn't stink up the joint like the Patriots did today...so your analogy is flawed. To sit there and suggest that Philly fans are the class of the sports world is rich.
  • they sucked badly, brady choked, the defense was an abortion, the running game would have been better served with crippled seniors, oh wait! Fred Taylor fills that role. They deserved every boo.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The same Philly fans that were applauding as Michael Irvin lay prone on the field with a serious injury? The same Philly fans who threw batteries at opposing players and who threw snowballs at Santa? Those Philly fans?? image >>



    That's somehow ok in a Philly fan's eyes but booing a terrible performance isn't? When you're used to a high level of performance, and you get crap, then the booing is warranted. They're not saying they're not appreciative for the past results (the fact that they're there paying hard-earned money is proof of that), but each performance should be graded on an individual scale. They cheered when they performed well, and booed when they sucked. >>



    Point understood and I don't disagree under "normal" circumstances, but we're talking about a team that has won 3 Super Bowls in the past 9 seasons - it doesn't make sense to boo a team like that. If McNabb and Reid would have done that we would have elected them mayor and governor.
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    << <i>When you're used to a high level of performance, and you get crap, then the booing is warranted. >>



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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Hold on a second - did anyone actually watch the game? We are overplaying the amount of booing from the NE fans. I heard a smattering of boos at the end of the 1st quarter (hey, down 24-0 can you blame them?) but I didn't hear much more during the rest of the game. Even when Brady was picked again in the 3rd quarter, it was mostly just quiet disappointment. It wasn't like the crowd revolted and threw batteries at players on the field, or applauded a seriously injured player - you know, like a Philly crowd would.
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  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    ct, are you kidding?...I watched the whole game....there were boos pretty much from 14-0 onward...every failed 3rd down...every turnover....every 1-yd draw play (did they run enough of those?), or -2 yard reception...I thought it was pretty much relentless throughout.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't distract CT with the facts...image


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And of course just two seasons ago the Patriots with this same QB and coach almost won their 4th Super Bowl and almost had an undefeated season. On top of their 3 SB wins, Patriots fans forget all this already?...absolutely pathetically pathetic for Patriots fans to boo this team.

    Sorry, but I see this as much more classless than anything any Philly fans ever did...and BTW, all those mentioned things done by Philly fans have been misinterpreted over the years.
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Booing a player and coach who brought you 3 Super Bowl rings? >>



    Don't you know the expression, "What have you done for me lately?" That's precisely what their booing was, right or wrong.
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  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>And of course just two seasons ago the Patriots with this same QB and coach almost won their 4th Super Bowl and almost had an undefeated season. On top of their 3 SB wins, Patriots fans forget all this already?...absolutely pathetically pathetic for Patriots fans to boo this team.

    Sorry, but I see this as much more classless than anything any Philly fans ever did...and BTW, all those mentioned things done by Philly fans have been misinterpreted over the years. >>



    Not to pile on, but how have those things been misinterpreted? Didn't they all happen?
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Booing a player and coach who brought you 3 Super Bowl rings? >>



    Don't you know the expression, "What have you done for me lately?" That's precisely what their booing was, right or wrong. >>



    You're right of course, but in Philadelphia, the "Whiz Kids" are still fondly remembered and the Yankees blew them out 4 - 0 in the 1950 WS. Dick Vermeil is still very much respected and admired, and Vermeil only got to the Super Bowl, he didn't even win it. The Phillies championship team of 1980 is still revered and many of the players loved by Philly fans especially Dallas Green and Pete Rose who helped get them over the hump. Even the Phillies WS runnerup team of 1993 has lot of loved players to Philly fans. Even the Sixers players and teams who were winners like Dr J, and Moses Malone and others are loved in Philly, and the hockey players and winning teams are loved as well.

    I'm not saying Boston fans are bad fans because they are great fans...but in this one incident they showed a total lack of class booing this team which has had such a great run of success.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Honestly, I think that Boston and NE fans are just spoiled at this point...they've had so much success in the past that it's a bitter pill for them to swallow when one of their teams gets exposed.


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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I guess since they no longer steal signals they have become just another team.

    10 and 6 one and out.


    Now that is pathetic.


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    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>And of course just two seasons ago the Patriots with this same QB and coach almost won their 4th Super Bowl and almost had an undefeated season. On top of their 3 SB wins, Patriots fans forget all this already?...absolutely pathetically pathetic for Patriots fans to boo this team.

    Sorry, but I see this as much more classless than anything any Philly fans ever did...and BTW, all those mentioned things done by Philly fans have been misinterpreted over the years. >>



    Not to pile on, but how have those things been misinterpreted? Didn't they all happen? >>



    This has been discussed here before, and I'm just not in the mood to discuss it in detail again right now, because the point is about Patriots fans.

    Ya know I probably feel a little bit like Carlton Fisk after yelling at Deion Sanders for not running out a ground ball out to first base. It's all about respect for the game, and NE fans clearly showed a lack of respect today for their own great football team. I'll be surprised if some NE area sportswriters or elsewhere don't say the same thing I'm saying.
  • When I heard the boos I figured something was happening that the cameras did not show. Maybe folks were booing the hoodie.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I guess since they no longer steal signals they have become just another team.

    10 and 6 one and out.


    Now that is pathetic.


    Steve


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    Not pathetic when your QB is hurting, your best WR is out, and you lose multiple Pro Bowler defensive players like the Patriots have. Tough to keep fielding a phenominal team every year.

    Now for SteveK... Are you chitting me? The Pats fans are supposed to be applauding the effort today? We got outplayed in every way, I didnt think we would win but I never thought our Defense would just lay down and our Offense just play patheticaly like they did. Gimme a break, the Players know they played like crap and deserve to get booed, only a handful of these guys know what Super Bowl calibre playing is like. You should be more concerned about your own Eagles team looking pizz poor the last few games with nothing better coming in the horizon..
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>And of course just two seasons ago the Patriots with this same QB and coach almost won their 4th Super Bowl and almost had an undefeated season. On top of their 3 SB wins, Patriots fans forget all this already?...absolutely pathetically pathetic for Patriots fans to boo this team.

    Sorry, but I see this as much more classless than anything any Philly fans ever did...and BTW, all those mentioned things done by Philly fans have been misinterpreted over the years. >>



    Not to pile on, but how have those things been misinterpreted? Didn't they all happen? >>



    This has been discussed here before, and I'm just not in the mood to discuss it in detail again right now, because the point is about Patriots fans.

    Ya know I probably feel a little bit like Carlton Fisk after yelling at Deion Sanders for not running out a ground ball out to first base. It's all about respect for the game, and NE fans clearly showed a lack of respect today for their own great football team. I'll be surprised if some NE area sportswriters or elsewhere don't say the same thing I'm saying. >>



    Fair enough. Like I said, didn't want to pile on.

    FWIW, I totally agree about the fans today. It amazes me how high they have set the bar considering that a mere decade ago both teams would have KILLED for a sniff at a ring.
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Im just curious? What is wrong with setting the bar high? NY does it every year, and I bet Philly does as well...
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Every team should set the bar high, (in every sport) why play if not for a championship?

    Money?


    Steve


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  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>Every team should set the bar high, (in every sport) why play if not for a championship?

    Money?


    Steve >>



    Of course the teams should set the bar high. The question here is about the fans.
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Every team should set the bar high, (in every sport) why play if not for a championship?

    Money?


    Steve >>



    Of course the teams should set the bar high. The question here is about the fans. >>




    Right but there should be no "question"

    Do any fans really set the bar at winning a few games? Or making it to the first round of the playoffs after a long season only to see the team come out flat?

    If you are a Browns type team's fan then yes but not when you have somewhat of a realistic shot at a decent Playoff run...
  • The Philly fans would've booed the Eagles the same way if their butt whooping had taken place in Philadelphia.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The Philly fans would've booed the Eagles the same way if their butt whooping had taken place in Philadelphia. >>



    No way "if" the Eagles had won 3 Super Bowls in 9 seasons and were just two seasons removed from almost winning it again with an undefeated season...there definitely...and I do mean definitely would have been no boos at the Linc.

    I think Grote15 stated it well - "Boston and NE fans are just spoiled..."
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Bob Costas screwed it all up for the Pats when he said after the Jets-Benglas game that the Jets would most likely be playing the Colts in the 2nd round (insinuating the Pats would most likely win). Never jump to conclusions in the playoffs, especially when the spread is less than 5 points.
  • There is a strong possibility that the Pats have jumped the shark

    in 1974 the Fins lost to the Raiders in the AFC div playoff after winning back to back SBs and never got back or won
    in 1996 the cowboys lost to the Vikings after winning 3 of the 4 SBs and they would not win another playoff game until this year


    I'm sure there are more example but the point is every dominant team will fade, the interesting thing is how sudden the fade is when looked historically not week to week.

    Teams lose coaches, coordinators and talent, eventually it happens. We will know soon enough if the Pats loss in the SB was their swan song
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There is a strong possibility that the Pats have jumped the shark

    in 1974 the Fins lost to the Raiders in the AFC div playoff after winning back to back SBs and never got back or won
    in 1996 the cowboys lost to the Vikings after winning 3 of the 4 SBs and they would not win another playoff game until this year


    I'm sure there are more example but the point is every dominant team will fade, the interesting thing is how sudden the fade is when looked historically not week to week.

    Teams lose coaches, coordinators and talent, eventually it happens. We will know soon enough if the Pats loss in the SB was their swan song >>



    Good, valid points but we're talking about a team with the same QB and coach which has accomplished all that was mentioned, and they are both far from old or over the hill. I mean after all that success, Pats fans should give them a mulligan, not a bunch of boos. Frankly, despite the bad game, the classy thing to do would have been to give them a nice, pleasant standing ovation, a show of appreciation and respect for all the success this QB and coach have brought to the New England Patriots.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vince Wilfork chides Patriots fans for booing team in loss to Ravens

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    The sound of boos raining down on the Patriots in Sunday's loss to the Ravens was both unusual (since the team hadn't lost a postseason game at home since 1978) and jarring for some of the players.

    New England NT Vince Wilfork said he was upset to hear the vocal disapproval from fans for whom the team had delivered 112 regular-season wins over the past decade.

    "It felt like we were playing an away game, that's what it felt like," Wilfork said, via the Boston Globe.

    More Wilfork:

    "Even if we'd moved on from here, we probably would've played two away games, back-to-back. I'm telling you, for all this team's done in the past … I don't understand it.

    "Of course, they pay their money, they want to see a good show, they want to have the big plays, but it doesn't happen like that all the time. But hey, they have their right to their opinion. That's how they felt, they let us know. We didn't help (matters)."

    Patriots QB Tom Brady said he didn't have a problem with the booing. But Wilfork's feeling like he was on the road was also due in part to the large contingent of Ravens fans who made the trek north and who grew proportionally larger as Patriots fans staggered out of the stadium before the game's end.

    Ravens coach John Harbaugh enjoyed the support.

    "I was surprised there were that many Ravens" fans, Harbaugh said. "There were thousands of Ravens fans all along the end zone and over top of the tunnel. It just overwhelms you when you see that. You see that sea of purple and the looks on their faces -- you just had to go and be a part of it." -- Sean Leahy
  • << There is a strong possibility that the Pats have jumped the shark

    in 1974 the Fins lost to the Raiders in the AFC div playoff after winning back to back SBs and never got back or won
    in 1996 the cowboys lost to the Vikings after winning 3 of the 4 SBs and they would not win another playoff game until this year


    I'm sure there are more example but the point is every dominant team will fade, the interesting thing is how sudden the fade is when looked historically not week to week.

    Teams lose coaches, coordinators and talent, eventually it happens. We will know soon enough if the Pats loss in the SB was their swan song >>



    Good, valid points but we're talking about a team with the same QB and coach which has accomplished all that was mentioned, and they are both far from old or over the hill. I mean after all that success, Pats fans should give them a mulligan, not a bunch of boos. Frankly, despite the bad game, the classy thing to do would have been to give them a nice, pleasant standing ovation, a show of appreciation and respect for all the success this QB and coach have brought to the New England Patriots.



    I disagree, Greise was in his 7th or 8th season and shula was the coach of that team. Griese went on to play for another 7 years. Tom Brady is in his 10th season. Aikman was in his 7th season, they had several coaches but they still had a great team after 1994. I think the parallel is there, the question is: is this a blip in the radar or the start of the end. Eventually all teams fade away.

    That said, I agree with the boos - that was a lack of respect for a QB and coach that put the Pats in the record book. But that's the way it is in the Northeast. NY, Boston, Philadelphia fans are very fickle for the most part. Not all I'm sure Perkdog is not as I know he is grateful for the quality of play the pats have put up since 2001.
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  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    in 1996 the cowboys lost to the Vikings after winning 3 of the 4 SBs and they would not win another playoff game until this year
    >>



    Correction, the lost to the Panthers.
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  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    <<<No way "if" the Eagles had won 3 Super Bowls in 9 seasons and were just two seasons removed from almost winning it again with an undefeated season...there definitely...and I do mean definitely would have been no boos at the Linc.>>>

    Steve - Are you kidding? Are you trying to tell me that the Phillies won't get booed once next season? After all, they've been to 2 straight WS and came away with a title...by your rationale, they will never get booed next year. I'll be sure to bring up this thread after a 5-game losing streak, when Howard has struck out for the 4th time in the game with the bases loaded, and the boos come raining down...let's see how "classy" the Philly fans are then.

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    << <i><<<No way "if" the Eagles had won 3 Super Bowls in 9 seasons and were just two seasons removed from almost winning it again with an undefeated season...there definitely...and I do mean definitely would have been no boos at the Linc.>>>

    Steve - Are you kidding? Are you trying to tell me that the Phillies won't get booed once next season? After all, they've been to 2 straight WS and came away with a title...by your rationale, they will never get booed next year. I'll be sure to bring up this thread after a 5-game losing streak, when Howard has struck out for the 4th time in the game with the bases loaded, and the boos come raining down...let's see how "classy" the Philly fans are then. >>



    Ya know what...if the Phillies go 0 - 162 they might get booed...but that ain't gonna happen...and what makes the booing by Patriots fans even worse, is that it's not like the Patriots stunk this season...they went 10 - 6 and got into the playoffs...a very good, respectable performance which should not have been booed just because they stunk in one game.

    Rather than try to make invalid comparisons to other teams fans, Patriots fans should admit they acted like a bunch of spoiled brats in that game, and then growup and learn to appreciate a QB, coach, and team which has achieved so much success over the recent years.

    The Patriots team didn't deserve to be treated like that by their fans in that situation. Case closed.
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