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What die tools made various gouges?

blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
Disclaimer: I know nothing about the die making process. I would like to know more.

Question: Where is there a resource that has good info on what tools diemakers used? I am curious as to what tools or methods made certain gouges. What peaks my curiosity is a couple morgans, mainly the tailbar and the hangnail.

The hangnail is grooved, the tailbar looks flat but then has similar grooves in the center. I always wonder if there is a relation toolwise between the gouges.

examples:

Hangnail:
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Tailbar:
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    your images are awesome!
  • jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
    blu62vette,

    I wrote an article on VAM 4 - Tailbar and your question, if someone could offer an opinion, would be awesome! It could help us understand how such a huge die gouge could have been made and possibly how it was either not noticed or simply ignored and allowed to strike coins.

    Lets see what everyone has to say - image
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do you have a link to the article? Was it for the C4OA?
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  • jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
    Yep, it was for the C4OA.

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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pretty sure I have it printed out.....
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any gouge that would do that, to either of these coins, would have to be toothed. I
    don't believe any gouge I've ever seen has teeth (at least not the metal gouges that my
    father had). I remember admiring them some twenty years ago. They were all shapes
    and widths but none had teeth.
    I've got a woodshop here in our old folks community and they do metal as well. Perhaps
    I can find out when then meet and see what these old guys say.
    Let you know Todd.

    bob
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  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did CSI take those picts for you?

    Absolutely awesome
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Did CSI take those picts for you?

    Absolutely awesome >>



    Nope those are all mine. I wish I spent more time with the high grade tailbar but it was part of a 400 coin job I was doing and didnt do any super special close-ups.
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  • mustanggtmustanggt Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting grooves in the gouges that I can't see with the naked eye. I have no idea what the tool might have been.

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